After a life of crime and 9 years in prison,Bill Cabe still an IFB Pastor, unrebuked

[OZZY]

Did YOU know about this latest event? I sure didn't. She posts HERE on the FF and her BLOG to expose to us the vile underbelly of IFB'dumb.

That is commendable IF all she was doing was compiling and exposing to us such action.

However, she ALWAYS uses it to attack IFB and parade piously about her wonderful denominational structure (that has their share of pervs, too).

That shows her inner hate and willful ignorance. For that she is to be pitied while we still NEED to hear her "reports".

Yes I did 1st, I read it in my home town paper, 2nd I read it here 2 weeks ago. So no need to give her any credit for "exposing" this it had already been reported here.

[Dr. Bob Griffin]

Yes I did 1st, I read it in my home town paper, 2nd I read it here 2 weeks ago. So no need to give her any credit for "exposing" this it had already been reported here.

Thanks. It was interesting and new information for me and as I said, I hate the way she does it AND the evil reasons for soing it. But still appreciate it being trumpeted here.

[Bob H]

Did YOU know about this latest event? I sure didn't. She posts HERE on the FF and her BLOG to expose to us the vile underbelly of IFB'dumb.

That is commendable IF all she was doing was compiling and exposing to us such action.

That shows her inner hate and willful ignorance. For that she is to be pitied while we still NEED to hear her "reports".

I'm not a baptist so I'll say that the vast, vast , vast majority IFB folks are good people {FFF baptist aside }. She doesn't know what "I"ndependent" means and what makes one a "F"undamentalist but I'll leave the "B"aptist part to ya'll here. She holds alot of bitterness and its really too bad.

However, she ALWAYS uses it to attack IFB and parade piously about her wonderful denominational structure (that has their share of pervs, too, but is miniscule denomination in size compared to Baptists).

The "I" in IFB means Independent. It is not a denomination. I know you knew that but I threw it in for others here. But I wonder if her denominational leadership and preachers decide things by using the stars.

Some Baptist churches are full of really stupid people.

I knew you were a closet arminian

[tbird]

Good evening.
This is my very first post. I have been led to FFF on a number of occasions in my research regarding a number of things involving the IFB, but just recently joined the forum.

With regard to the topic at hand, namely the Rev. Johnny William "Bill" (or as he was called by some when I was personally acquainted with him, BILLY) Cabe, there is something I would like to add.

He despised being called Billy, or at least, according to Sam he did. I remember one day during P.E., Cabe was serving as P.E. teacher, and supervising a game of flag-football with the boys. Sam, one of my fellow students, scored a touchdown, and then yelled "Did you see THAT, Billy Cabe?" The look of contempt that came across Cabe's face only clarified what Sam told me later. Namely, that Mr. Cabe, the vice-principal of the christian school we attended (and also youth pastor of the church where my family and I went) HATED being called "Billy". But you had to consider that the man was only 5 or 6 yrs. older than us high school students, and had been known as "Billy" for quite a few more years than he was known as "Mr. Cabe". It really didn't matter much to us kids that he had become an ordained minister at the age of 16, or that he was a graduate of some fancy-pants christian university, which was later confirmed to be Bob Jones in the local news, just BEFORE he started getting into trouble.

Cabe wore his authoritative air around us quite proudly, although at times, he made sure we also saw the "kid" in him. I'm not referring to his trying to "relate" to us, or "reach" us in some way. On one hand I mean to say he would get very frustrated with what he would consider a blatant lack of respect from students, and the severity of the punishments he would dole out were equivalent to his own personal "temper tantrums". On the other hand, he was one who could sure get us kids interested in RAISING MONEY for various school functions like class trips and things of that nature. He had us selling some kind of dairy drink mix one time for a fundraiser. If my recollection serves me right, that fundraiser financed a class trip to Florida. He frequently came up with all kinds of money-making ideas, for the school and himself. I remember him attempting to start up his own limousine service. He had already purchased 2 or 3 limos, and even drove one to school in order to take a crowd of us to lunch one day. I never heard how the limo business panned out, though.

What I do remember is that all of a sudden, he was GONE! No longer the vice-principal, or the youth pastor. The adults around the school and church kept everything hush-hush about it. The only distinctive thing I remember after his sudden absence was hearing that Pastor Smith had "asked" him to leave, but the reason was never public knowledge. In retrospect, I can say it wouldn't surprise me if it involved a juvenile male at the school/church. And IF I am correct in my assumption, something else that wouldn't surprise me is the pastor NOT contacting the authorities so as to avoid a "scandal".

Another thing of GREAT significance that I remember, and will forever be burned into my mind, was Cabe's devotion to and respect for Mack Ford, who at that time, and for a period of 30+ years, was the director and founder of the New Bethany Homes in Arcadia, LA, Longstreet, LA, Walterboro, SC, and just discovered recently, Auburn, AL (this one was called the New Bethany Home for the Unwanted). Having been released from New Bethany in Arcadia within the year of becoming acquainted with Cabe, you can only imagine the feeling of a cold dagger going through me upon hearing the man talk about what a great manogawd Ford was, and how he himself intended to open up his own boys home modeled exactly like New Bethany.

That is EXACTLY what he did. News accounts from the mid 80's through the early 90's document his pastoring a few different churches, being quoted as wanting to build a DYNAMIC youth ministry at each one, and becoming active in semi-political movements around the York County area. Then there was an article about he and his father Joe being arrested for assaulting a deacon at the church Cabe was pastoring.

Not long after being asked to come on as pastor of Riverside Baptist Church in Rock Hill, the boy's home, "Riverside Baptist Home for Boys" came to fruition.

Just like with Cabe's "pre-Riverside" days, news accounts covered the horrible abuses of those boys, some accounts coming from fomer employees and church members (who were labeled by those still attending Riverside as "disgruntled"). By abuses, I mean beating a boy at the Riverside home across the rear end with a paddle over 100 times, until he was bruised and bleeding, striking young boys across the face, and lastly, SEXUALLY ABUSING THEM. Yes, there were charges filed. Social Services came in and closed the place down. At the very same time, the multimillion dollar ponzi-like scheme (HisWay Ministries) he and Joel Shirley cooked up started crashing down around them. The powers that be decided that the federal case against him was MUCH MORE important than the fact that Cabe could have likely ruined the lives of the boys in his care that he had dared to put his slimy little hands on.

All child abuse charges were dropped. He went to federal prison, after putting the system through a bunch of red tape because he had a "mental breakdown", and his competency to stand trial was brought into question. And yes, it appears that Cabe was either "forgiven" by his church for his dastardly deeds, or else they blindly believed that their manogawd was being persecuted by those led by satan himself.

I'm sure the rest of you know the CURRENT part of this story, i.e. Cabe was currently indicted on the CURRENT sexual abuse charges. The reason I wanted to even write this is because the author of the beginning of this thread was chided for posting facts about an "old" story. I don't think "old" is a way to adequately describe it. LONG and ONGOING would appear to be more fitting, don't you agree?

In closing (and this may be a lengthy closing), I want to add that a large percentage of news outlets who have reported on this DO have knowledge about the boys who raised the original allegations of abuse by Cabe back in the early 90's. They KNOW that these boys were not merely "students" of Riverside Christian School. They KNOW that these boys were RESIDENTS of an unlicensed, unregulated, privately/church funded RESIDENTIAL BOYS HOME. They KNOW that these boys were left in the CARE of Cabe, 24-7. And they WILL NOT make these facts public now, even though the media covered it extensively when the allegations first surfaced in '92-'93. They wil report nothing about the boys in the early 90's as nothing more than students of a christian school. It makes me wonder why there are so few people wondering how a "student" could go home AFTER school, and explain a bloody and bruised rear-end, not to mention the other horrible things Cabe allegedly inflicted on these poor boys. The fact is they DIDN'T. They had NO ONE to tell while in Cabe's clutches.
So I have to politely disagree that this story is "old". Is it ongoing, and STILL developing. I can't help but wonder (with the exception of the "boys home" facts being part of an ongoing investigation), why the media thinks no one should know the truth about the boys Cabe "allegedly" abused back in the
90's. Cold it possiby be that SOMEONE doesn't want any focus on the same type of homes, of which there is a MULTITUDE, modeled after Mack Ford's and Lester Roloff's which are currently operating all over the United States?

[eliz553]

Horrible.

[tbird]

It appears to me that the intention of the author of the original post was to relay additional facts about this story, and to show the COMMONALITY within the IFB to sweep their internal nastiness under the rug. The same thing was done for Mack Ford and all the "alledged" child predators he employed.

[16KJV11]

I know Bill Cabe.
He preached at a church camp that I was a counsellor at about 17 years ago.
He came back one other time that I was there.
We knew nothing of any allegations back then.
Of course, a few years ago, I heard that he had been tossed in the clink for several years.
OK my X'er friends, let's all see how we can sweep this under the rug...
Pssst...I won't tell anyone that he's a thief and a perv if you don't.
Maybe we'll have him preach junior week and be a counsellor!

[VictoryVolunteer]

I know Bill Cabe.
He preached at a church camp that I was a counsellor at about 17 years ago.
He came back one other time that I was there.
We knew nothing of any allegations back then.
Of course, a few years ago, I heard that he had been tossed in the clink for several years.
OK my X'er friends, let's all see how we can sweep this under the rug...
Pssst...I won't tell anyone that he's a thief and a perv if you don't.
Maybe we'll have him preach junior week and be a counsellor!

A friend of mine is in Rock Hill SC and he said that because he calls himself an IFB...it has stunted church growth until he can prove he isnt like idiot....uh...I mean Cabe. It is amazing that even while in lockup...Billy still remained the pastor "for Christ's sake"


I think I told Bass about Cabe a while back...I dont remember for sure though

[16KJV11]

A friend of mine is in Rock Hill SC and he said that because he calls himself an IFB...it has stunted church growth until he can prove he isnt like idiot....uh...I mean Cabe. It is amazing that even while in lockup...Billy still remained the pastor "for Christ's sake"


I think I told Bass about Cabe a while back...I dont remember for sure though

I heard the same thing and couldn't believe it.
Maybe we should all go down there and boycott his church.
Cabe's a knucklehead for sure, but what in the world can we here in PA do about it?
Or, what SHOULD we do about it?
Any suggestions BASS?

[pallmall]

IFB Pastor Bill Cabe is currently facing new charges, including those related to sexual indecency with a child....AGAIN. Here is his history:

1) Assault upon an elderly man: “Cabe has been in court before. He and his father, Joe Cabe, were convicted in Magistrate’s court of assault and battery for punching and shoving a 69-year old church member who has been excommunicated” (Spartanburg Herald-Journal, February 23, 1993, page B5, “Minister Surrenders in Sexual Abuse Case.”)

1) Fraud: The Metrolina Food Bank has cut off deliveries to the [Riverside Baptist--Ed.]church while it investigates allegations Riverside sold donated food.” The Item, Nov 7, 1992 page 9a “Boys Home Closes in Wake of Allegations”

3) Violent and sexual child abuse: “A Sept 3 [1992] DSS letter sent to Cabe and Deacon Charles Ford…said Cabe “more likely than not” abused two boys at the school. The letter said “Cabe gave a boy 100 licks with a portion of wood resulting in bleeding and bruising.” Two other boys, whose parents pulled them out of the school once the allegations were publicized, and many former church employees and ex-parishioners have said Cabe beat, paddled, and humiliated the boys.” (Ibid.) “The Department of Social Services began investigating allegations of physical abuse last year. Investigators determined Cabe paddled boys more than 100 times, slapped children, and beat some of them until they were bloody and bruised, documents show. But law enforcement officers [also] found claims of sexual molestation.” Spartanburg Herald Journal, page B3, June 13, 1993 “Minister Accused of Molestation”

Interesting that although Cabe was facing multiple felony charges that warned of him as a danger to children, he remained free on bond from the time he was arrested in February 1992 until he faced trial in July of 1994. Anybody molested or beaten by Cabe in that time period may want to consult a lawyer on suing the legal system in Rock Hill, since it deliberately and consciously allowed a man facing multiple charges stemming from multiple child victims to remain free. (Spartanburg Herald-Journal July 10 1994 page B4 “Sex ABuse Trial for Minister Delayed.”)

4) Fraud, again: “More than 260 people contributed about $7.8 million to Hisway Ministries, a program set up by ministers Johnny “Bill” Cabe of York and Shelton Joel Shirley of Gastonia.” Charlotte Observer, October 4, 2001, Page 1B “Fraud Victims Doubt Payback”

“A Rock Hill minister told people that he and his business partner lost their life savings in investments and were “broke,”but an IRS agent testified Tuesday that the minister gave hundreds of thousands of dollars to family members, his church and himself. Special agent Kelly Jackson’s testimony came from a detailed financial analysis she conducted of the accounts held by Hisway Ministries, an organization founded by the Rev. Johnny “Bill” Cabe.” Charlotte Observer, July 18, 2001, Page 1Y “IRS Agent: Cabe, Family Got Money Testimony Contradicts Minister’s Story That He Lost Savings, Was `Broke’

5) And now, sex abuse again, as well as practicing medicine without a license:



So which is worse: our legal system’s merry-go-round in which Cabe keeps getting out on bond (currently, BTW, in spite of being a felon many times over, and a sexual offender, he is out on $12,000 bond), or the IFB’s merry-go-round of crooks and perverts in the pulpit in which the only thing that keeps Cabe away from church office is his jail time?

Who has criminally and with depraved indifference to the community abdicated its role and responsibilities more wickedly, the legal system or the Independent Fundamental Baptists? I sure would like to know. Both of them have enabled and even sheltered this man as he burns a path of destruction right through the lives of innocent people, especially children.

I don't know how many times we gotta tell you but there ain't no organization called "Independent Fundamental Baptist" that has the power or authority to keep scum like him out of the pulpit. THAT power resides with each individual church ALONE!!!

If ya got a beef you need to take it up with EACH INDIVIDUAL CHURCH!!!

Ya blockhead!