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There is one scenario that hasn't been mentioned. If, because of the EIC, you have a negative tax then you should tithe on that. Looking at my 1040a if lines 41a + 41b is greater than line 37 we will all be putting money in your pocket (bless our hearts) and you should consider that an increase.
If it really is just the refund then no, it's your money that you presumably already tithed on that the feds have decided you can have back (how sweet of them).
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If you pay tithe on the gross amount, you've already paid tithe on your refund, unless you have some special situation.
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Seriously (assume you are talking about "giving") the only money gotten back from the government that was not "yours" would be if you qualified for the low income "Earned Income Credit".
This is actual money given by the government, not part of your originally-earned wages.
You've already given (whatever way you desire) on the wages you earned, but if they give you $1000 then it would be proper to consider this additional income and give proportionally of it.
So assume you earn $20,000 and have donated $2,000 (10%). If the govt withheld money of yours from the $20,000 to pay taxes and not all was needed to pay those taxes, they simply give you your money back. Nothing different than if in a savings account (except Uncle Sam pays no interest). It is just your money back.
But if they say "you're so poor that we give you back ALL your money we've withheld for taxes AND give you additionally some of Bob's money as Earned Income Credit", then you are gaining money that is new and should consider giving of it.
As a young pastor with a family and rural church, I qualified for EIC on a number of returns. Didn't PAY tax and actually GOT MONEY BACK. And yes, I gave of that added government pay.
Seriously (assume you are talking about "giving") the only money gotten back from the government that was not "yours" would be if you qualified for the low income "Earned Income Credit".
This is actual money given by the government, not part of your originally-earned wages.
You've already given (whatever way you desire) on the wages you earned, but if they give you $1000 then it would be proper to consider this additional income and give proportionally of it.
So assume you earn $20,000 and have donated $2,000 (10%). If the govt withheld money of yours from the $20,000 to pay taxes and not all was needed to pay those taxes, they simply give you your money back. Nothing different than if in a savings account (except Uncle Sam pays no interest). It is just your money back.
But if they say "you're so poor that we give you back ALL your money we've withheld for taxes AND give you additionally some of Bob's money as Earned Income Credit", then you are gaining money that is new and should consider giving of it.
As a young pastor with a family and rural church, I qualified for EIC on a number of returns. Didn't PAY tax and actually GOT MONEY BACK. And yes, I gave of that added government pay.
I thought you didn't believe in the tithe?
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some of you on here, esp justinian, are so cruel. They way people talk on here to other people is horrendous. .
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Should I tithe/offer on income tax refund?
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