read thru these forums and just get a sense of sadness?
I'm rather new here, and was reading thru the different "Christian" college forums, and I'm just grieved with how much Christians have become one with the world.
Our family has attended many churches (all in the same camp) and I really thought the worldliness was isolated to them.
What happened to seperation and holiness for today? (rhetorical question, really....not meant for debate?
Sorry, I guess I'm just disappointed and really miss the types of churches that I was raised in, I guess they're a thing of the past.
Sure there are things here that make me sad.
Did you read through the Trinity Baptist College forum? That one will break your heart, but not because of music or dress standards.
I have always found it interesting--and a little sad--that the unbelievers speak with more kindness than the avowed Christians. (speaking in generalities, of course, but you don't see Gringo or Duncan Ferguson calling people "jackass".)
I hope you're able to get past your sadness.
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Great verse! I'm usually a little leery of the "good old days" philosophy.
Gina
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Did you read through the Trinity Baptist College forum? That one will break your heart, but not because of music or dress standards.
I have always found it interesting--and a little sad--that the unbelievers speak with more kindness than the avowed Christians. (speaking in generalities, of course, but you don't see Gringo or Duncan Ferguson calling people "jackass".)
I hope you're able to get past your sadness.
Some of kindest souls I have had the pleasure of knowing.
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We've seen seperated, soul-winning churches that aren't as seperated as they used to be. For instance, they used to preach against southern gospel music...now there having southern gospel concerts in their churches. They use to preach dress standards and many still do, however years ago the standard was at least an inch below the knee and now the standard is simply to the knee. It seems that instead of comparing our lifestyles to the Bible now we look at the world and well.....we're dressing better and living holier than they do, but we're still have strayed so far from holiness.
We sat in a church and often heard from the pulpit that girls weren't suppose to dress like Brittany Speers (which I believe that they're not), however most people in todays society wouldn't be caught dead dressing like Speers.
Maybe as a previous poster said...maybe it wasn't so ideal when I was younger either, however I just know that it was a whole lot different 20 yrs ago.
It's sad to see the change, and worse yet to see it excused.
Regardless of what others say, there has definitely been a trend toward the world by the church. Most just won't admit it. You will find most on this forum are looking for an excuse for sin rather than seeking to live as a separated people unto God.
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LMiller and Refreshed, you are right on target. There are still churches and men that have not changed. I travel with some like that. These men realize they are going to answer to the Lord Jesus and that motivates them to KEEP STANDING! I am in Maine and when I go somewhere to preach I am as disappointed as you to what I see. Back in the woods things don't change much. I see the trend of compromise on this board.
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I am one "in the know" and I'm telling you Ebenezer doesn't know what he's talking about. He's a seller of cars and trucks...can you really trust someone like that?
LOL No doubt.
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Do you have any Scripture to support the position that southern gospel music is a sin? Musical style is not defined in Scripture but is a preference of man.
Church music has changed from the times of the apostles to the present. Even the "evil" piano was a recent addition to the church because of the piano's use in taverns.
Why be liberal with the skirt 1" below the knee? How about 1" below the ankle?
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Originally Posted by LMiller
We've seen seperated, soul-winning churches that aren't as seperated as they used to be. For instance, they used to preach against southern gospel music...now there having southern gospel concerts in their churches. They use to preach dress standards and many still do, however years ago the standard was at least an inch below the knee and now the standard is simply to the knee. It seems that instead of comparing our lifestyles to the Bible now we look at the world and well.....we're dressing better and living holier than they do, but we're still have strayed so far from holiness.
We sat in a church and often heard from the pulpit that girls weren't suppose to dress like Brittany Speers (which I believe that they're not), however most people in todays society wouldn't be caught dead dressing like Speers.
Maybe as a previous poster said...maybe it wasn't so ideal when I was younger either, however I just know that it was a whole lot different 20 yrs ago.
It's sad to see the change, and worse yet to see it excused.
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Isn't having a smoking section in a restaurant like having a peeing section in the swimming pool?
I guess I'm wondering WHY it bothers you? I don't mean to sound apathetic, I just really don't understand. I mean, in the end, you only have control over you and yours.
Gina
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Originally Posted by LMiller
We've seen seperated, soul-winning churches that aren't as seperated as they used to be. For instance, they used to preach against southern gospel music...now there having southern gospel concerts in their churches. They use to preach dress standards and many still do, however years ago the standard was at least an inch below the knee and now the standard is simply to the knee. It seems that instead of comparing our lifestyles to the Bible now we look at the world and well.....we're dressing better and living holier than they do, but we're still have strayed so far from holiness.
We sat in a church and often heard from the pulpit that girls weren't suppose to dress like Brittany Speers (which I believe that they're not), however most people in todays society wouldn't be caught dead dressing like Speers.
Maybe as a previous poster said...maybe it wasn't so ideal when I was younger either, however I just know that it was a whole lot different 20 yrs ago.
It's sad to see the change, and worse yet to see it excused.
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George S. Patton
Do you have any Scripture to support the position that southern gospel music is a sin? Musical style is not defined in Scripture but is a preference of man.
Church music has changed from the times of the apostles to the present. Even the "evil" piano was a recent addition to the church because of the piano's use in taverns.
Why be liberal with the skirt 1" below the knee? How about 1" below the ankle?
Someway, somehow, at some level...it simply has to be a sin.
At least, it ought to be!
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