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    Old 07-03-2009, 03:29 PM
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    A comment on sharper iron uses the phrase "self inflicted." Unless the writer simply didn't want to use the word "suicide", I fear he inadvertantly revealed the method.
    In practice, any method of suicide is "self-inflicted." Either by gun, knife, pills, hanging, carbon monoxide. So the term "self-inflicted" doesn't really indicate how he killed himself.
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    Since all of the facts are not known about his situation, it's hard to say why people are responding this way. I suppose some know more of the circumstances than we do.
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    A comment on sharper iron uses the phrase "self inflicted." Unless the writer simply didn't want to use the word "suicide", I fear he inadvertantly revealed the method.

    Did you see the write-up on his blogpage from his family? Such a professionally constructed statement that is supposed to pass as "word from his family." It seems almost as if they aren't even allowed to be real during this for the sake of the college and church. You know how it goes: <<stand there, sad, say, "God is in control!" and whisper your thank you's to everyone who passes by. Girls have tissues in your hand, guys rub your mom's shoulder...>>

    Back to your question. Let's see, a nationally known Pastor (in the circles, that is), a coast to coast speaker... the ideas are whirling. That's the sad thing about this. They do not want to reveal any information in order to save face, but all that does is make the ideas worse than the problem really is.

    I couldn't imagine being so alone, and depressed, to ever kiss the business end of a gun barrell. I mean, how could you ever say, "goodnight, I love you" enough? Sends chills up my spine.


    Going home to the family...
    Without revealing things from my past, I have been there. To get to that point, many things happened...some of which I could have controlled some which I could not. But when you reach a certain place, it is so lonely. You feel that no one can understand what you are going through. It is a spiralling effect that is hard to stop. There seems to be no out...except one. You don't see things clearly.

    Afterwards, my family had so many questions. Some I could answer...some I could not. But I realized that my way was not solving anything.

    I was fortunate. God spared me. Why He didn't in this case, we will never know until Heaven.
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    Without revealing things from my past, I have been there. To get to that point, many things happened...some of which I could have controlled some which I could not. But when you reach a certain place, it is so lonely. You feel that no one can understand what you are going through. It is a spiralling effect that is hard to stop. There seems to be no out...except one. You don't see things clearly.

    Afterwards, my family had so many questions. Some I could answer...some I could not. But I realized that my way was not solving anything.

    I was fortunate. God spared me. Why He didn't in this case, we will never know until Heaven.
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    He was scheduled to preach next week in the states. The conference host church just quickly swept him off their website. So typical in IFBdom. So sad.
    FYI, Pastor Chappell told LBC about Dr. Baker's passing in the Wednesday evening service.
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