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    Old 07-25-2007, 03:22 PM
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    For those of you who feel the two threads about the FFF Temple Tales were wrong, filled with gossip, or whatever let me say I'm sorry it bothers you. The purpose was not meant to be malicious.

    But the sad fact revealed in all of this is the double standard here.

    I have been emailed and PMed about just praying for James and not posting this. I'm sorry but if Guy or me or Brennan were to say that about posts regarding Schaap or Gray of Jax ... this place would explode with accusations of "cover up" - "denial" - "sweeping sin under the rug" - "100%er" - "Kool-Aid Drinker" and on and on and on

    He did it. I'm sorry. I don't rejoice over it. I'm not glad about it.

    BASSENCO reports on little known pastors from places none of us ever heard of before. Why? What's the point except to discredit the IFB and HAC if she can.

    James was a man who posted here. Exposed the "sins" of others on a regular basis. Were his motives pure? Was he Christlike in his rants against LBT and TBC? He wrote a tell all book. He was considered a major source of credibility on IFB abuse by many within the blog world.

    Why shouldn't he be exposed?

    Before you answer ... think long and hard because I will check the archives to see if you have given opinion or judgment or comment on anyone on this forum.
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    Old 07-25-2007, 03:30 PM
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    It is sad that any Pastor would fall into a snare of the devil. I think it is rather childish of anyone who would air dirty laundry to anyone unless to protect other people who might be drawn away by the sins of others. That is why we as Pastors and Christians in general need to guard ever so closely our walk with the LORD that we don't give cause to the devil and his minion to throw accusations at us.

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    I agree that you should have every right to say what you want in regards to this as long as it is factual. BASS does the same. The fact she is quiet about it shows she is two faced concerning this matter of routing bad seeds in IFBdom.

    To those that say James wasn't an IFB pastor, he was. As far as I knew the church was "independent" and "fundamental". I can truly say I hope all this is false.
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    Old 07-25-2007, 03:38 PM
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    For those of you who feel the two threads about the FFF Temple Tales were wrong, filled with gossip, or whatever let me say I'm sorry it bothers you. The purpose was not meant to be malicious.

    But the sad fact revealed in all of this is the double standard here.

    I have been emailed and PMed about just praying for James and not posting this. I'm sorry but if Guy or me or Brennan were to say that about posts regarding Schaap or Gray of Jax ... this place would explode with accusations of "cover up" - "denial" - "sweeping sin under the rug" - "100%er" - "Kool-Aid Drinker" and on and on and on

    He did it. I'm sorry. I don't rejoice over it. I'm not glad about it.

    BASSENCO reports on little known pastors from places none of us ever heard of before. Why? What's the point except to discredit the IFB and HAC if she can.

    James was a man who posted here. Exposed the "sins" of others on a regular basis. Were his motives pure? Was he Christlike in his rants against LBT and TBC? He wrote a tell all book. He was considered a major source of credibility on IFB abuse by many within the blog world.

    Why shouldn't he be exposed?

    Before you answer ... think long and hard because I will check the archives to see if you have given opinion or judgment or comment on anyone on this forum.
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    Old 07-25-2007, 03:39 PM
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    For those of you who feel the two threads about the FFF Temple Tales were wrong, filled with gossip, or whatever let me say I'm sorry it bothers you. The purpose was not meant to be malicious.

    But the sad fact revealed in all of this is the double standard here.

    I have been emailed and PMed about just praying for James and not posting this. I'm sorry but if Guy or me or Brennan were to say that about posts regarding Schaap or Gray of Jax ... this place would explode with accusations of "cover up" - "denial" - "sweeping sin under the rug" - "100%er" - "Kool-Aid Drinker" and on and on and on

    He did it. I'm sorry. I don't rejoice over it. I'm not glad about it.

    BASSENCO reports on little known pastors from places none of us ever heard of before. Why? What's the point except to discredit the IFB and HAC if she can.

    James was a man who posted here. Exposed the "sins" of others on a regular basis. Were his motives pure? Was he Christlike in his rants against LBT and TBC? He wrote a tell all book. He was considered a major source of credibility on IFB abuse by many within the blog world.

    Why shouldn't he be exposed?

    Before you answer ... think long and hard because I will check the archives to see if you have given opinion or judgment or comment on anyone on this forum.
    Very interesting when the pendulum swings the other way!
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    Marty's post here brought back a memory of a thread...

    "Take a second to listen for you think this record is dissin'" I remember the SlimShady debates over on the original FFF. Marty isn't "dissin" Coyote. He is just fulfilling 1 Timothy 5:20.
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    I agree that you should have every right to say what you want in regards to this as long as it is factual. BASS does the same. The fact she is quiet about it shows she is two faced concerning this matter of routing bad seeds in IFBdom.

    To those that say James wasn't an IFB pastor, he was. As far as I knew the church was "independent" and "fundamental". I can truly say I hope all this is false.
    If this account was of Jack Schaap ... how many blog pages and podcasts would she have already generated within these 2 days????
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    If this account was of Jack Schaap ... how many blog pages and podcasts would she have already generated within these 2 days????
    I think the internet would shut down with the bandwith she'd be taking...
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    I have watched the whole nasty thing unfold and this just really bakes my egg. Yes Marty, what you did WAS wrong. You can justify your own sin of gossip all you want. From what I understand, James is no longer in the ministry, the other men you mentioned ARE. There is a huge difference and if you don't understand that then you are more pompous than I thought.

    And you don't have to "check the archives" on me. I have spoken out LOUDLY against Alan Domelle. I stand and still do. Again, another man in ministry that should have resigned a long time ago (and Schaap knows it).

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