Oh Grannylo, please do not waste tears on me. My heart breaks at the tears already shed on my behalf. Believe it or not, but I am doing good. Well I am doing far better than those young women interned at Hephzibah House now…So if you have sorrow, then please cry for them.
I have a problem with a couple of things in the first story. First of all, it annoys me greatly that a Christian School would admit a High School student who could not give a testimony of salvation. (Unless that CS is using it as a ministry to unsaved students as a few do.)
I suppose she could have lied about her salvation though. It wouldn't really surprise me. She admits to lying to the people at HH about her salvation and why not? After all, her family lied to her when they took her down to HH. Lying must have been considered acceptable to the people in her life in some way.
I really don't know why these people all seem to have to lie to get their children there. Most men are larger than their daughters and could physically restrain those who put up a fight. Lying is a sin, no matter if you are taking your daughter to a home or not.Just a pet peeve of mine in this whole sordid mess. How do you expect to reach kids who are struggling when you are a liar or taking them to people who tell you to lie to them so they can get a hold of them Ron Williams never told a parent to lie. I have asked him this.
The circumstances before a girl is brought to HH has nothing to do with Ron Williams. If the parents lie to their daughter...that is wrong. I agree with you on that.
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The circumstances before a girl is brought to HH has nothing to do with Ron Williams. If the parents lie to their daughter...that is wrong. I agree with you on that.
I would hate to think that anyone would feel that deception would help their problems. I think its very wrong to ambush someone and throw them into an unfamiliar situation.
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TESTIMONY from www.hephzibahhouse.org
I am writing on behalf of the Hephzibah House ministry. I was brought to the school at 16 years of age.
When I entered their doors, I was experiencing deep problems and severe emotional pain. I was incredibly unstable and unable to control my emotions.
Over the two and a half year time span, I truly believe I received a wealth of help. I was given practical tools in helping me to gain control of my emotions. I was taught a strong work ethic and time management skills. During the time I was there, I earned a college preparatory diploma and took many college classes as well. When I left Hephzibah House, I was no longer a scared, unstable, frightened little girl. Instead I was a strong, confident hard working young woman.
As I write this letter, I am nearing my 40th birthday. I have a bachelors degree in education and a business degree as well. For 17 years, I have been married and my husband and I have three children. Although I grew up around alcoholism, alcohol has no part in my life today whatsoever. I truly attribute this great success to the tools so diligently instilled in me as a teenager at Hephzibah House.
Never in the two and a half year time span did I ever witness or experience any sort of abuse whatsoever. I was well-cared for and well-provided for. From everything I could see or hear, my fellow students were given the same fine care.
I am writing this today both to commend this ministry and also to shed some light on the positive impact they have made on my life and those lives I now touch. I will never be the same for having known them and for having been under their care.
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Last edited by FreedomSoar; 08-27-2009 at 08:50 AM.
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I would hate to think that anyone would feel that deception would help their problems. I think its very wrong to ambush someone and throw them into an unfamiliar situation.
You mean like the title of this thread, and the posting of it in the Testimony and Praise forum?
You mean like the title of this thread, and the posting of it in the Testimony and Praise forum?
Because it is TESTIMONIES. If you don't appreciate what God has done in young lives, then please do not read them.
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Not sure what you mean, but I will take it as a compliment. Praise the Lord for what he has done in my life...I am still growing and will continue til the day I die.
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I have been asked to post this by a very dear friend...believe it...don't believe it...her words stand as the truth and I think that is what bothers you the most.
I go to church when I can. It is always a challenge for two reasons. The first difficulty is that I struggle with public places in general. My family helps me and I have been able to live a relatively normal life, but I rarely venture outside of my home.
Second, I have flashbacks. Please do not mistake this admission to mean that I wallow in a disability, or I am not ashamed that I have not been able to overcome this. I simply feel my experience may help or comfort those who have the same struggles and those who are trying to understand the damage done by mixing cruelty and faith in developing young minds.
Each time I go to church I risk a flashback.
Each flashback makes it harder to force myself to go back to church.
Each time I avoid church it is harder to go back even though I really desire to go.
A flashback goes something like this;
I am happily sitting in church having dropped my kids off in the nursery and am being blessed by beautiful piano music when I hear a curtain familiar intro to a song, or see a familiar gesture from the pastor that was associated with that traumatic time. I am instantly back at HH. I can feel the rough, cold concrete under my paper-thin shoes. I feel the familiar ache in my lower back and hips and feel the cool smooth metal chair. I can smell the dusty/musty room we called church and the even strange organic cleaner we used.
This is all logically not happening but the fresh, raw emotion rolls over me like a tidal wave and I often have to step out before I loose my composure. I don't believe too many people are even aware of my turmoil--I would never want to disrupt a service.
I have begged God to take this from me. I have forgiven Pastor Williams and I continue to believe in the importance of attending and being faithful @ a Bible believing church. This is just my struggle for what it is worth.
TESTIMONY from www.hephzibahhouse.org
I am writing on behalf of the Hephzibah House ministry. I was brought to the school at 16 years of age.
When I entered their doors, I was experiencing deep problems and severe emotional pain. I was incredibly unstable and unable to control my emotions.
Over the two and a half year time span, I truly believe I received a wealth of help. I was given practical tools in helping me to gain control of my emotions. I was taught a strong work ethic and time management skills. During the time I was there, I earned a college preparatory diploma and took many college classes as well. When I left Hephzibah House, I was no longer a scared, unstable, frightened little girl. Instead I was a strong, confident hard working young woman.
As I write this letter, I am nearing my 40th birthday. I have a bachelors degree in education and a business degree as well. For 17 years, I have been married and my husband and I have three children. Although I grew up around alcoholism, alcohol has no part in my life today whatsoever. I truly attribute this great success to the tools so diligently instilled in me as a teenager at Hephzibah House.
Never in the two and a half year time span did I ever witness or experience any sort of abuse whatsoever. I was well-cared for and well-provided for. From everything I could see or hear, my fellow students were given the same fine care.
I am writing this today both to commend this ministry and also to shed some light on the positive impact they have made on my life and those lives I now touch. I will never be the same for having known them and for having been under their care.
why bring up abuse, if she never saw or heard of any going on??
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