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    Default Tennessee Temple Could Have a Future

    With the closing of the K-12 academy, with the sale of WDYN-FM, with the empty dorms, etc.-- one can only wonder about the future of Tennessee Temple.
    Consider the facts: Tennessee Temple is fighting for a market. Their traditional base, when the school was at its' peak, was from independent Baptists (Sword of the Lord types) and from conservative Southern Baptists.
    The independent fundamental types are gone and gone forever from supporting TTU. That support has gone to schools who will who continue to pander to the latest whim of the IFB movement--whether anti-CCM, King James-only, etc.
    Conservative Southern Baptists, since the conservative resurgence in the Convention, have conservative schools to support: Truett-McConnell in Georgia, Union in Tennessee, University of Mobile in Alabama, North Greenville in South Carolina, etc.
    Now, Highland Park has become Southern Baptist and the school seems to be courting that SBC support. But why should Southern Baptist students bypass an established college with accreditation for a non-accredited (TRACS notwithstanding) with a shaky reputation?
    Does TTU have a future? I believe so.
    TTU should approach Union University with the dynamic, conservative leadership of President David Dockery, and seek to work out an agreement whereby TTU would become a branch of Union University.
    1) This would give instant academic credibility
    2) This would likely give financial ability to fix up the buildings
    3) Local Southern Baptists would likely support the school in abundance
    4) We are talking survival.
    As a graduate of the Lee Roberson era, I hate to see the school close, but I also hate to see the school become a diploma mill for distance learning with no accreditation and no reputation.
    Just a thought---what think ye?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big John View Post
    With the closing of the K-12 academy, with the sale of WDYN-FM, with the empty dorms, etc.-- one can only wonder about the future of Tennessee Temple.
    Consider the facts: Tennessee Temple is fighting for a market. Their traditional base, when the school was at its' peak, was from independent Baptists (Sword of the Lord types) and from conservative Southern Baptists.
    The independent fundamental types are gone and gone forever from supporting TTU. That support has gone to schools who will who continue to pander to the latest whim of the IFB movement--whether anti-CCM, King James-only, etc.
    Conservative Southern Baptists, since the conservative resurgence in the Convention, have conservative schools to support: Truett-McConnell in Georgia, Union in Tennessee, University of Mobile in Alabama, North Greenville in South Carolina, etc.
    Now, Highland Park has become Southern Baptist and the school seems to be courting that SBC support. But why should Southern Baptist students bypass an established college with accreditation for a non-accredited (TRACS notwithstanding) with a shaky reputation?
    Does TTU have a future? I believe so.
    TTU should approach Union University with the dynamic, conservative leadership of President David Dockery, and seek to work out an agreement whereby TTU would become a branch of Union University.
    1) This would give instant academic credibility
    2) This would likely give financial ability to fix up the buildings
    3) Local Southern Baptists would likely support the school in abundance
    4) We are talking survival.
    As a graduate of the Lee Roberson era, I hate to see the school close, but I also hate to see the school become a diploma mill for distance learning with no accreditation and no reputation.
    Just a thought---what think ye?
    Graduation rate is 29%. I'm pretty sure there will be far less being turned out even though 1000 students are taking courses.

    With the academy closing, professors and staff will probably want to raise their kids someplace else.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Big John View Post
    With the closing of the K-12 academy, with the sale of WDYN-FM, with the empty dorms, etc.-- one can only wonder about the future of Tennessee Temple.
    Consider the facts: Tennessee Temple is fighting for a market. Their traditional base, when the school was at its' peak, was from independent Baptists (Sword of the Lord types) and from conservative Southern Baptists.
    The independent fundamental types are gone and gone forever from supporting TTU. That support has gone to schools who will who continue to pander to the latest whim of the IFB movement--whether anti-CCM, King James-only, etc.
    Conservative Southern Baptists, since the conservative resurgence in the Convention, have conservative schools to support: Truett-McConnell in Georgia, Union in Tennessee, University of Mobile in Alabama, North Greenville in South Carolina, etc.
    Now, Highland Park has become Southern Baptist and the school seems to be courting that SBC support. But why should Southern Baptist students bypass an established college with accreditation for a non-accredited (TRACS notwithstanding) with a shaky reputation?
    Does TTU have a future? I believe so.
    TTU should approach Union University with the dynamic, conservative leadership of President David Dockery, and seek to work out an agreement whereby TTU would become a branch of Union University.
    1) This would give instant academic credibility
    2) This would likely give financial ability to fix up the buildings
    3) Local Southern Baptists would likely support the school in abundance
    4) We are talking survival.
    As a graduate of the Lee Roberson era, I hate to see the school close, but I also hate to see the school become a diploma mill for distance learning with no accreditation and no reputation.
    Just a thought---what think ye?
    Big John, you are not the first person to come up with an idea like this, but I like your way of thinking. Actually I heard recently from a very reliable source that some discussions had taken place with a large Christian university to make TTU an extension campus. Apparently an independent feasibility study was conducted, and the other school initially gave its blessings to the plan, but Lovett shot the plan down, content to continue his "go-it-alone," distance-ed emphasis. The source, who was involved in the discussions with the other school, told me that TTU would become a distance-ed only school in a matter of time and that Lovett preferred that approach.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rsteelecam View Post
    Big John, you are not the first person to come up with an idea like this, but I like your way of thinking. Actually I heard recently from a very reliable source that some discussions had taken place with a large Christian university to make TTU an extension campus. Apparently an independent feasibility study was conducted, and the other school initially gave its blessings to the plan, but Lovett shot the plan down, content to continue his "go-it-alone," distance-ed emphasis. The source, who was involved in the discussions with the other school, told me that TTU would become a distance-ed only school in a matter of time and that Lovett preferred that approach.
    This just proves that Dr. Lovett is destroyng everything Dr. Lee Roberson built.
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    Then they came for the Socialists and the Trade Unionists but I was not one of them,
    so I did notspeak out. Then they came for the Jews but I was not Jewish so I did
    not speak out. And when they came for me, there was no one left to speak out for me." -Martin Niemoeller

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    Quote Originally Posted by GenX View Post
    This just proves that Dr. Lovett is destroyng everything Dr. Lee Roberson built.
    No, I don't think it proves that at all. I am not of the opinion that TTU/HPBC must preserve every program and institution that Lee Roberson established or built. If I believed that, I would not be in favor of a merger with any other college. Instead I would have the wishful attitude that TTU could miraculously emerge from the ash heap on its own power and restore its own glory days, remaining an independent institution continually operating under the name "Tennessee Temple University" instead of "Union-East Campus" or a title named after some other larger institution.

    The fact that Lovett has chosen to stay the course can mean a number of things. Perhaps he really does think his current distance-ed direction is the better way to go. Or perhaps he is too proud to accept help from an institution that could provide instant accreditation and an infusion of much-needed cash—things he would take years to provide, if ever. Perhaps he feels his leadership post would be threatened by a merger. Only Danny Lovett himself knows for sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rsteelecam View Post
    No, I don't think it proves that at all. I am not of the opinion that TTU/HPBC must preserve every program and institution that Lee Roberson established or built. If I believed that, I would not be in favor of a merger with any other college. Instead I would have the wishful attitude that TTU could miraculously emerge from the ash heap on its own power and restore its own glory days, remaining an independent institution continually operating under the name "Tennessee Temple University" instead of "Union-East Campus" or a title named after some other larger institution.

    The fact that Lovett has chosen to stay the course can mean a number of things. Perhaps he really does think his current distance-ed direction is the better way to go. Or perhaps he is too proud to accept help from an institution that could provide instant accreditation and an infusion of much-needed cash—things he would take years to provide, if ever. Perhaps he feels his leadership post would be threatened by a merger. Only Danny Lovett himself knows for sure.
    That's exactly what I mean!
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    Then they came for the Socialists and the Trade Unionists but I was not one of them,
    so I did notspeak out. Then they came for the Jews but I was not Jewish so I did
    not speak out. And when they came for me, there was no one left to speak out for me." -Martin Niemoeller

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    Either the school merges with another larger institution, and gain the academic help and credibility they desperately need, and financial assistance, or continue on the path of destruction they are on and a few years down the road there WONT be any TTU; campus or online...simply put I see a dictatorship brewing here and a man that refuses to be intimidated or pushed out the door...I really think Lovett will rule that school until it dies from lack of support or he is forced out due to complaints about how its run, and the condition it is currently in...do we have board members that are thinking long term or looking at the present and what they think is good for the school?? IMHO, Temple NEEDS a merger with another school to even survive let alone keep athletics...once they shut down, the school will fold entirely cause athletes will NOT go to a school that has no athletics plain and simple!!! Any other comments on this issue???
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    Why are they rebuilding the soccer field if the school is going to be Distance Education only? It seems to me, that's throwing away a lot of money of some kind of a pet project.
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    Then they came for the Socialists and the Trade Unionists but I was not one of them,
    so I did notspeak out. Then they came for the Jews but I was not Jewish so I did
    not speak out. And when they came for me, there was no one left to speak out for me." -Martin Niemoeller

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    The belt-tightening appears to be working as TTU's debt is shrinking. Lovett may prove a lot of people wrong.

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    Much agreed.
    Quote Originally Posted by GenX View Post
    Why are they rebuilding the soccer field if the school is going to be Distance Education only? It seems to me, that's throwing away a lot of money of some kind of a pet project.

 

 

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