End Times Forum

[Ransom]

People's minds can't be controlled if they have access to information that is not controlled.

The only one trying to "control" anyone here is you, with your constant finger-wagging and paranoid ranting about a fictitious conspiracy to shut you up.

[usmjam]

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[usmjam]

Originally Posted by Lisa Ruby

My opinion? They don't have enough of their own to "work the end-time forum" --to keep it under control.

For example, I'd share what I've learned by showing that John Darby wrote pre-trib rapture doctrine into his own bible version.

John Darby's Pre-Tribulation Rapture Alterations to the Bible
http://libertytothecaptives.net/darb...immediacy.html

People's minds can't be controlled if they have access to information that is not controlled.

Aye, the study and tracing back of the origins of the "secret rapture" theory is a must in these days.

Below is an extract from another site for those interested in further study. Although the site is not perfect, it otherwise seems to be representative of several other good sources regarding John Darby and his manipulations of God's Word:


John Neslon Darby

From the page:

"The twentieth century has seen a dramatic paradigm shift in
prophetic perspectives, first away from and now back toward its historic

roots. This shift away from historic Christianity stemmed from a novel
approach to Bible interpretation called dispensationalism which was
developed in the 1830s and popularized with the 1909 publication of the
Scofield Reference Bible. Dispensationalism, with its unique brand of
premillennialism, has been thoroughly pervasive, being prominent in many
churches, in bookstores, and among radio Bible teachers.

The distinguishing features of dispensationalism are a rigidly
applied literalism in the interpretation of Scripture, a
compartmentalization of Scripture into "dispensations," and a dichotomy
between Israel and the Church. Dispensationalists believe "this present
world system . . . is now controlled by Satan" (not by God) and will end
in failure and apostasy.

Dispensational premillennialists claim that their unique doctrines
have been held since the early church, but these claims have been
soundly refuted. Far from being the historic position of the church,
premillennialism was described in 1813 by David Bogue as an oddity of
Church history. Postmillennialism was the dominant eschatology from the
Reformation until at least 1859.

The doctrine of a secret rapture was first conceived by John Nelson
Darby of the Plymouth Brethren in 1827. Darby, known as the father of
dispensationalism, invented the doctrine claiming there were not one,
but two "second comings." This teaching was immediately challenged as
unbiblical by other members of the Brethren. Samuel P. Tregelles, a
noted biblical scholar, rejected Darby's new interpretation as the
"height of speculative nonsense." So tenuous was Darby's rapture theory
that he had lingering doubts about it as late as 1843, and possibly
1845. Another member of the Plymouth Brethren, B.W. Newton, disputed
Darby's new doctrine claiming such a conclusion was only possible if one
declared certain passages to be "renounced as not properly ours."

Sandeen writes, "this is precisely what Darby was prepared to do. Too
traditional to admit that biblical authors might have contradicted each
other, and too rationalist to admit that the prophetic maze defied
penetration, Darby attempted a resolution of his exegetical dilemma by
distinguishing between Scripture intended for the Church and Scripture
intended for Israel. . . . Darby's difficulty was solved by assuming
that the Gospels were addressed partly to Jews and partly to
Christians."

Thus, the doctrine of the separation of Israel and the Church, the
foundation of dispensationalism, was born out of Darby's attempt to
justify his newly fabricated rapture theory with the Bible.
Dispensationalists believed justification for carving up the Scriptures
came from 2 Timothy 2:15 (KJV) "rightly dividing the word of truth."
Subsequent dispensationalists divided the Scriptures in terms of
categories of people: Jew, Gentile, and Christian. Chafer taught that
the only Scriptures addressed specifically to Christians were the gospel
of John, Acts, and the Epistles! Pettengill taught that the Great
Commission was for the Jews only.

Scofield taught that the Lord's prayer
was a Jewish prayer and ought not be recited by Christians. Along with
much of the New Testament, the Old Testament was described as "not for
today." Ryrie dismissed the validity of the Old Testament commands to
non-Jews because "the law was never given to Gentiles and is expressly
done away for the Christian." Christians were even mocked as legalists
for believing in the Ten Commandments! As other critics have observed,
this segmentation of the Bible makes dispensationalism a Christianized
version of cultural relativism.

Snowden and others traced the rise of modern premillennialism to a
variety of religious splinter groups: the Plymouth Brethren (developed
dispensationalism), the Millerites (became the Adventists), Mormons,
Jehovah's Witnesses, and Pentecostals. Dispensational premillennialism
was marketed the same way as the cultic groups. "