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    Old 06-10-2009, 07:25 AM
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    What happened to the Bravos?

    They used to be a classy organization..
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    What happened to the Bravos?

    They used to be a classy organization..

    Yes, during the fourteen consecutive division title run it was quite evident the Braves were a classy organization.

    I think they still are. However, they did not handle the Tom Glavine situation well. He should have been released about a month earlier once they saw how dominating Hanson was at AAA. You go either with the young gun with huge upside or the 43 yr old who can only hope to finish the current season. The Braves chose the right pitcher.

    Now, did the Braves dump Glavine only for the above reason? Maybe. It could be the McLouth deal just became available about the same time, or the Braves were saving money on Glavine to finance McLouth.

    Either way, hands down, Glavine needed to be cut and Hanson called up. Francouer/Anderson aren't getting it done in the outfield offensively so the McLouth deal was one the Braves couldn't pass up.

    We are one trade away from dethroning the Phils.

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    As an Atlantan, I can tell you the Braves have no problems with cutting ties with a pitcher who has history with them. Remember, Glavine left us for more money in NY. That felt like betrayal to many fans here. If we let Smoltz go to the Red Sox (rightly so - how many games has he pitched for them for how many millions they gave him?), we obviously have no trouble letting Glavine go. My friend thought we should have given Smoltz what he wanted. I pointed out the age and injuries, and it was only until a month ago that my friend realized it would have been a HUGE mistake to give Smoltz an 8 digit contract. He hadn't even pitched! This situation, like Smoltz's, was a financially and organizationally sound decision. Would you rather we paid Glavine a million only to have him do as Smoltz is doing now... sitting on his rear? You can tell me he was getting ready to come back up from AAA ball, but that's what we heard earlier this season. April, in fact. People were getting tired, and what could we reasonably expect from him, anyways? 4th or 5th in the rotation, maybe win half the games he pitched. Best case scenario, imo. We should have let him go in April.

    Maybe that's what you're questioning? Wren and Schuerholz already admitted they could have handled it better by treating their employee upfront about the situation, and they apologized for that. That's classy. Glavine himself said he had no problem with what they did, but only how they did it. My point is simply that giving a washed up pitcher a million just for nostalgic reasons is not obligated and not classy. That's not how a business runs. I'm sure in the future the front office will look to settle these things more quickly. But I'm not about to call the Braves un-classy for one misstep they've already corrected, especially not after the last 2 decades.
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    Yes, during the fourteen consecutive division title run it was quite evident the Braves were a classy organization.

    I think they still are. However, they did not handle the Tom Glavine situation well. He should have been released about a month earlier once they saw how dominating Hanson was at AAA. You go either with the young gun with huge upside or the 43 yr old who can only hope to finish the current season. The Braves chose the right pitcher.

    Now, did the Braves dump Glavine only for the above reason? Maybe. It could be the McLouth deal just became available about the same time, or the Braves were saving money on Glavine to finance McLouth.

    Either way, hands down, Glavine needed to be cut and Hanson called up. Francouer/Anderson aren't getting it done in the outfield offensively so the McLouth deal was one the Braves couldn't pass up.

    We are one trade away from dethroning the Phils.

    The Phillies just beat the Mets last night, and the Red Sox are coming up Friday. The Braves had 14 years of "CLOSE" World Series wins, but they had bad leadership in the post season. One World Series championship out of 14 speaks for itself.

    The Phillies are on their way again...........
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    1/2 a season to go..and I don't mind being in 1st place either.
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    Picking up Pedro as a #4/5

    Bring in Halladay and it's over.
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