To get away from the negativity that has been suggested lets ask that question.
No where in the NT it attributed to him having one. They beat him, spit on him and did several things as described in the NT accounts of the crucifixion but nothing about a beard being plucked off. Why not if they did do it?
Also was it the custom of the day for the men to wear beards during Jesus time on earth?
Good question I often think that Jesus did wear a beard because he was just like anyone else. (Physically) It is often stated that Christ did not appear outward in any physical characteristic. He looked like the common man. I do not have Bible proof that he wore a beard but doesn't it say in Isaiah that his beard was plucked. Why do we believe it there but disreguard it in the New Testament? The scripture doesn't say much about his hair length either,but I don't think he was in military regulation with his hair. This confusion has the ability to bleed into dress and hairstyles due to what scripture doesn't say. I feel if it doesn't say it, it isn't important to God that we make an issue of it. I do believe that many good people are held in judgement due to the fact that pastoral staff doesn't believe one can have good hygene.
Many pastors will give the rule that facial hair is unsanitary for all. So they make the rule that no one should have any. Some men need facial hair Sorry I am off topic.LOL I think that Jesus wore a beard. Being the custom of that day I would have to say, perhaps.
Don't ya know that he only had a few days growth when they plucked his beard? Can anyone say TWEEZERS???
Actually, you have a very good point, Bro. B! I'll have to look up some verses and get back to you on this.
I just couldn't resist the comment, since I've actually heard that said.
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Of course this is only my opinion!
The word "beard" is mentioned in the Old Testament 15 times...it's not used in the New Testament.
I am thinking that when you consider that Isaiah is a book of prophecy, and certain portions of Isaiah prophesies about Christ's death, that you can look at Isaiah 50:6 and conclude it's possible that He did have a beard. In referencing the word "cheek"
From an unused root meaning to be soft; the cheek (from its fleshiness); hence the jaw bone: - cheek (bone), jaw (bone).
Also reference Isaiah 52:14 it speaks of his visage being marred - I would think if he had a beard, by the time the soldiers were through beating him, you wouldn't know whether he had a beard originally.
I guess that's one reason why I think it's important to understand the culture of the Jews at that time. One of the forms of torture used was to rip out the beard w/ skin still attached.
You also need to realise that for a Jewish man to not have his beard, it was considered humiliation. Think about the story where David's servants had half their beards shaved off (II Sam 10:4) that mixed w/ the fact that their garments were cut off above the waist, exposing their backside ended up causing a war to break out
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How come all the busts of the men of Jesus day all seem to have shorter hair and no beards?
The "pictures" or artist renderings of Cesar and pilot are the same.
Also how sure are we that Is 50:6 is a prophecy of Jesus? I know later chapters seem pretty likely but chapter 50? And that is the only verse that says the beard was plucked out.
Also it is only through Isaiah that we get the picture that Jesus was beaten so bad he was nearly unrecognizable.
Not the picture given in the NT accounts. Nothing more then a scourging (which was bad), being beaten by the soldiers with hands and reeds, and a crown of thorns is given in the NT. Not trying to minimize what my Lord went through prior to the cross but those things are not necessary only His death, burial and resurrection are necessary.
Makes me wonder sometimes if man has not added to the Biblical account here.
Just thinking outloud on the topic.
Take what you do know:
Luke 22:44 - At the mount of Olives, while Jesus prayed, he was sweating profusely -given how it's phrased he was either sweating profusely -which may be hyperhidrosis or it could very well be something that is extremely rare such as "hematohidrosis" where the tiny blood vessels inside the sweat glands burst under such agony where the sweat is mingled w/ blood.
Matt 26:67 - spit in Jesus face
Luke 22:63 - smote Jesus. Tradition holds that a Jewish beating was 40 lashes of the whip - minus 1.
Luke 22:64 - struck Jesus on his face.
The Roman Soldiers:
Matt 27:26 - scourged Jesus
Matt 27:28 - stripped Jesus
Matt 27:29 - placed a crown of thorns on his head.
From a medical standpoint, w/ the great intensity that Christ prayed, he was severly sweating, which coupled w/ the loss of His blood from the scourging at the hand of the Jews, would more than likely lead way to dehydration. Per wikipedia.com, Hematohidrosis can also lead way to Hemochromotosis a disorder due to deposition of hemosiderin in the parenchymal cells, causing tissue damage and dysfunction of the liver, pancreas, heart, and pituitary gland.
Next the beating from the Roman Soldiers, per Wikipedia.com "In the Roman Empire, flagellation was often used as a prelude to crucifixion, and in this context is sometimes referred to as scourging. Whips with small pieces of metal or bone at the tips were commonly used. Such a device could easily cause disfigurement and serious trauma, such as ripping pieces of flesh from the body or loss of an eye. In addition to causing severe pain, the victim would be made to approach a state of hypovolemic
shock due to loss of blood. The Romans reserved this torture for non-citizens, as stated in the lex Porcia and lex Sempronia, dating from 195 and 123 BC...Typically, the one to be punished was stripped naked and bound to a low pillar so that he could bend over it, or chained to an upright pillar as to be stretched out. Anywhere from two-six lictors
alternated blows from the bare shoulders down the body to the soles of the feet. There was no limit to the number of blows inflicted— this was left to the lictors to decide, though they were normally not supposed to kill the victim...Often the victim was turned over to allow flagellation on the chest, though this proceeded with more caution, as the possibility of inflicting a fatal blow was much greater" - Obviously this is not from the Bible, but could represent an idea as to the scourging Christ endured.
Next imagine the crown of thorns. One thing I think of is that thorns are attributed to the fall of man (Gen 3:18), the crown of thorns forced into Jesus' scalp - imagineable would strike major nerves, and cause immense pain - it's believed the thorns were from the Paliurus spina-christi tree.
Next he is led to the cross...per wikipedia.com the Roman Cross typically weighed over 300lbs -which may be why Simon was compelled to carry the cross.
Next he's crucified - obviously it doesn't specifically mention that nails were used, however from John 20:25 you know nails were used. Based on the position of the nails, it's likely the nails went through the median nerve - this would create pain so intense that morphine wouldn't even help. If the feet were also nailed, the nails likely struck the plantar nerves which would cause the same effect.
Often the cross would be placed into a hole w/ such forceful impact that the bones would then pop out of joint. It is thought that Christ's heart ruptured which caused His ultimate death.
I guess it puts it into perspective when you do a little more research to see what may have happened.
That was very helpful! Thanks for digging. We have a Jewish man in our church, and though he is a Christian, still keeps a beard. He was raised that all men (not teenage boys though) were to have beards. He keeps his closely trimmed. Just FYI
Of course this is only my opinion!
Yes, Jesus had a beard. Why? Because I said so. Don't question the man of God.
Actually, I believe that Jesus had a beard simply because it was a Jewish custom. I believe that Jesus looked like a typical Jewish man. There was no beauty that we should desire Him, and his appearance was normal. If He did not have a beard, it would have been abnormal.
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