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    Old 11-05-2009, 06:56 PM
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    They do care more for the Environment, than us Christian in my opinion.

    Why do you, think they do or do not?
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    They do care more for the Environment, than us Christian in my opinion.

    Why do you, think they do or do not?
    I don't know that that's true. Some Christian writers are very pro-environment.

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    “This challenge will not be solved by nations sitting back and waiting for others to act first. Developed nations have benefited most from cheap fossil fuels and we must now lead on developing low carbon futures for all. Caring for God’s planet earth is today a crucial expression of Christian discipleship.”
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    They do care more for the Environment, than us Christian in my opinion.

    Why do you, think they do or do not?
    Since nearly all of the posters on this forum subscribe to fundamental Christianity, and since most of their pastors hold to the Republican persuasion of politics, and since Al Gore is obviously of the Democratic persuasion, it is true that the majority position (of posters) holds that there is no global warming -- hence, there is nothing for which to be concerned.

    Dunderheads.

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    Since nearly all of the posters on this forum subscribe to fundamental Christianity, and since most of their pastors hold to the Republican persuasion of politics, and since Al Gore is obviously of the Democratic persuasion, it is true that the majority position (of posters) holds that there is no global warming -- hence, there is nothing for which to be concerned.

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    Dunderheads.

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    They do care more for the Environment, than us Christian in my opinion.

    Why do you, think they do or do not?
    When I was a fundamentalist, I carried the attitude of God is going to destroy it all anyway, so what does it really matter? I was sooooo wrong.

    Though I don't buy into global warming, I do believe that God gave us this earth for a period of time and we should leave it environmentally better than the condition in which we entered it out of respect for God and those generations who will follow us.
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    Slight of hand.

    As I have posted before, global warming or no, the earth is overall cooling down. The hottest temperatures on earth existed before there were men to record their temperatures -- approximately 4.5 billion years ago when the earth came to be. The overall temperature of the earth has been cooling down ever since. There are natural cycles of warming and cooling that are effected by the sun, the continents, and earth's rotation, but overall the earth's temperature is going down. In about 4 billion years the earth will be a solid frozen rock, if it has not been swallowed up by our expanding sun.

    It may or may not be true that man's behavior has some localized affect on the earth's climate, but no amount of CO2 emmission can arrest the inevitable. To the contrary -- an increase in CO2 emmission would probably speed up the cooling down process. But to deny that we are currently in a localized warming trend, and that the warming trend is being affected by CO2 emmision, is to hide one's head in the sand.

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    Slight of hand.

    As I have posted before, global warming or no, the earth is overall cooling down. The hottest temperatures on earth existed before there were men to record their temperatures -- approximately 4.5 billion years ago when the earth came to be. The overall temperature of the earth has been cooling down ever since. There are natural cycles of warming and cooling that are effected by the sun, the continents, and earth's rotation, but overall the earth's temperature is going down. In about 4 billion years the earth will be a solid frozen rock, if it has not been swallowed up by our expanding sun.

    It may or may not be true that man's behavior has some localized affect on the earth's climate, but no amount of CO2 emmission can arrest the inevitable. To the contrary -- an increase in CO2 emmission would probably speed up the cooling down process. But to deny that we are currently in a localized warming trend, and that the warming trend is being affected by CO2 emmision, is to hide one's head in the sand.

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