Are you so blind that even the good done by Christians becomes evil in your eyes?
He may or may not be blind, but your ignorance is showing through, as usual.
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But we are all as an unclean thing, and all our righteousnesses are as filthy rags; and we all do fade as a leaf; and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us away.
--Isaiah 64:6
Furthermore, stop tooting your own horn.
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Moreover when ye fast, be not, as the hypocrites, of a sad countenance: for they disfigure their faces, that they may appear unto men to fast. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.
--Matthew 6:16
You are like so many Christians: you would rather win an argument and defend your precious image than win a lost soul to Christ.
How putrid! You and others like you make me sick.
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"And God said, you are responsible for the fish of the sea,
and the fowl of the air, and every living thing that moveth upon the earth."
1. He may or may not be blind, but your ignorance is showing through, as usual.
2. Furthermore, stop tooting your own horn.
3. You are like so many Christians: you would rather win an argument and defend your precious image than win a lost soul to Christ.
4. How putrid! You and others like you make me sick.
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1. Ignorance may be cured - stupidity, seldom
2. "Tooting" Is that a dig against me?
3. That is a bit iconoclastic - I used to have a bobblehead dog in the back window of my car - Does that count?
4. Putrid things often make me sick.
Hope today is a good on for you - now - go play in the yard!
Ott
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The one great fallacy of fundamentalism is that we actually believe that while we are confessing the sins of others that the Lord will not look as intently on our own.
As I have gotten older, I have tended to become less dogmatic over certain issues: "(1 Cor 2:2 KJV) For I determined not to know any thing among you, save Jesus Christ, and him crucified."
Are you so blind in your prejudice that you don't see that Christians give because they want to help people who are less fortunate and in need? Can you be so narrow minded as to think that all the millions of Christians who are willing to reach out and help do it because of expectations for any good works, and because of pressure through expectation? Do you not realize that Christians can see a need and care enough to want to help? Are you so blind that even the good done by Christians becomes evil in your eyes?
Did I say it was evil? No.
Did I directly say that I don't mind the results of any charitable work? Yes.
Did I say that I personally admire a nonbeliever's unsolicited charity more than I admire charity performed by a theist because it's their "religious duty." Yes. Mind, that's a personal opinion, so it's not saying much.
I think you've become so eager to find something "wrong" with what I'm saying, you're willing to take what I've said, expand it to a caricature of what it originally was, and then blast me with it as though I launched on a diatribe on how all charity performed by believers is "evil" (your word, not mine.) I merely said that I admire nonbelievers who give because they genuinely want to.
Although, I would like to hear your process on how you got from my original statement to Christian charity being "evil" keeping in mind that I DID say I have nothing against charity.
Did I directly say that I don't mind the results of any charitable work? Yes.
Did I say that I personally admire a nonbeliever's unsolicited charity more than I admire charity performed by a theist because it's their "religious duty." Yes. Mind, that's a personal opinion, so it's not saying much.
I think you've become so eager to find something "wrong" with what I'm saying, you're willing to take what I've said, expand it to a caricature of what it originally was, and then blast me with it as though I launched on a diatribe on how all charity performed by believers is "evil" (your word, not mine.) I merely said that I admire nonbelievers who give because they genuinely want to.
Although, I would like to hear your process on how you got from my original statement to Christian charity being "evil" keeping in mind that I DID say I have nothing against charity.
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Originally Posted by KnaverAbounds
Did I say it was evil? No.
Did I directly say that I don't mind the results of any charitable work? Yes.
Did I say that I personally admire a nonbeliever's unsolicited charity more than I admire charity performed by a theist because it's their "religious duty." Yes. Mind, that's a personal opinion, so it's not saying much.
I think you've become so eager to find something "wrong" with what I'm saying, you're willing to take what I've said, expand it to a caricature of what it originally was, and then blast me with it as though I launched on a diatribe on how all charity performed by believers is "evil" (your word, not mine.) I merely said that I admire nonbelievers who give because they genuinely want to.
Although, I would like to hear your process on how you got from my original statement to Christian charity being "evil" keeping in mind that I DID say I have nothing against charity.
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Originally Posted by KnaverAbounds
I guess it's because, as a nonbeliever, there's no expectation for any good works, and because there's no pressure through expectation, I think charitable actions done by Bill Gates, Lance Armstrong, the late Carl Sagan and other nonbelievers are (possibly) more sincere than those performed by believers. Mind, I'm not criticizing the end result at all, but the motivation behind the actions seems a little disingenuous, that's all.
You may not be criticizing the end results, but your critical view of Christians is coming through loud and clear.
"Are you so blind in your prejudice that you don't see that Christians give because they want to help people who are less fortunate and in need? Can you be so narrow minded as to think that all the millions of Christians who are willing to reach out and help do it because of expectations for any good works, and because of pressure through expectation? Do you not realize that Christians can see a need and care enough to want to help? Are you so blind that even the good done by Christians becomes evil (done because of disingenuous reasons) in your eyes"?
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