you admit you've never given much thought to the subject, much less studied the subject, but you are sure that many of the details are extremely suspect? Nice.
You think a virgin birth, a death followed by resurrection, no independent corroboration etc. etc are not extremely suspect?
__________________ The only position that leaves me with no cognitive dissonance is atheism. It is not a creed. Death is certain, replacing both the siren-song of Paradise and the dread of Hell. Life on this earth, with all its mystery and beauty and pain, is then to be lived far more intensely: we stumble and get up, we are sad, confident, insecure, feel loneliness and joy and love. There is nothing more; but I want nothing more.
Ayaan Hirsi Ali
You think a virgin birth, a death followed by resurrection, no independent corroboration etc. etc are not extremely suspect?
Hey Duncan - What would you consider to be independent? I think I know what you mean but not sure.
I would not be so surprised if a couple thousand years down the road, it would be "discovered" that there were no such people as Winston Churchill, Adolph Hitler, George Washington, Abraham Lincoln or Jeffrey Dahmer ... That they were all mythological characters which represented some sort of idealism and that there never was an existence of a Negroid Race from Africa that "invaded" a mythological land known as "America" - Stranger things have happened.
I once considered myself to be atheistic in my beliefs but now am a "believer" in God, His Son and His presence on this earth being the center point of all earth's history.I do not consider myself to be any smarter nor less intelligent than I was then - I just have "faith".
Thanks,
Ott
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The one great fallacy of fundamentalism is that we actually believe that while we are confessing the sins of others that the Lord will not look as intently on our own.
As I have gotten older, I have tended to become less dogmatic over certain issues: "(1 Cor 2:2 KJV) For I determined not to know any thing among you, save Jesus Christ, and him crucified."
Hey Duncan - What would you consider to be independent? I think I know what you mean but not sure.
I would not be so surprised if a couple thousand years down the road, it would be "discovered" that there were no such people as Winston Churchill, Adolph Hitler, George Washington, Abraham Lincoln or Jeffrey Dahmer ... That they were all mythological characters which represented some sort of idealism and that there never was an existence of a Negroid Race from Africa that "invaded" a mythological land known as "America" - Stranger things have happened.
I once considered myself to be atheistic in my beliefs but now am a "believer" in God, His Son and His presence on this earth being the center point of all earth's history.I do not consider myself to be any smarter nor less intelligent than I was then - I just have "faith".
Thanks,
Ott
When were you and how long were you and atheist?
What happened to change your mind?
Why did you decide that the Christian faith was the right one?
Why did you decide that the Christian faith was the right one?
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I'll write down my conversion experience one day and post it on the testimony board - there are some guys upstairs that already consider me not one of the elect, saved, A Christian, or whatever teminology they are using today - I guess that is why I spend more time here - some of those guys confuse me - as if that is hard to do.
If I am a Christian, I should try to be Christlike and love people for His sake.
Bro. Ott
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The one great fallacy of fundamentalism is that we actually believe that while we are confessing the sins of others that the Lord will not look as intently on our own.
As I have gotten older, I have tended to become less dogmatic over certain issues: "(1 Cor 2:2 KJV) For I determined not to know any thing among you, save Jesus Christ, and him crucified."
I'll write down my conversion experience one day and post it on the testimony board - there are some guys upstairs that already consider me not one of the elect, saved, A Christian, or whatever teminology they are using today - I guess that is why I spend more time here - some of those guys confuse me - as if that is hard to do.
If I am a Christian, I should try to be Christlike and love people for His sake.
Bro. Ott
I believe you are a Christian and you shouldn't be too concerned about what those guys upstairs have to say. Our hope is in Jesus and not in being accepting on these forums by people who have a lot of problems. They are missing out if they don’t like us and want to know us. You and I aren’t nearly as good as Jesus, but we are a couple of good guys if we are compared with the rest of the world. I’m good because that is my character, but you may be too old to be bad for all I know.
Let me know when you post your testimony, I would like to read it. If you don't mind, post it here too.
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The one great fallacy of fundamentalism is that we actually believe that while we are confessing the sins of others that the Lord will not look as intently on our own.
As I have gotten older, I have tended to become less dogmatic over certain issues: "(1 Cor 2:2 KJV) For I determined not to know any thing among you, save Jesus Christ, and him crucified."
__________________
The one great fallacy of fundamentalism is that we actually believe that while we are confessing the sins of others that the Lord will not look as intently on our own.
As I have gotten older, I have tended to become less dogmatic over certain issues: "(1 Cor 2:2 KJV) For I determined not to know any thing among you, save Jesus Christ, and him crucified."
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