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    Default The REAL SHOW: Jack facing Cindy

    Getting fired by your "yes-men" deacons was the easy part for Schaap.

    His parents will be disappointed, but he is blood and they will not have an unkind word for him, and will remember the accomplishments such as baptizing 25,000 in one year's time.

    But, hell hath no fury as Cindy Schaap scorned. Schaap is getting asked what no man ever wants to have his wife ask:

    1. When did it start
    2. How many times
    3. Was it protected
    4. Was she ovulating

    Then she will blame him for the collapse of the Hyles legacy by saying something like, "My dad handed you his ministry and you've caused reproach on him, and it." Stuff like that. And it won't be pretty.

    All those scolded for sleeping and walking out early can have a chuckle in that sense; he's getting his!

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    For this reason, my goes out to Cindy. No matter what she knew/saw/ignored through the years, she is going through probably the most hurtful thing that can happen to a woman and she is doing it before the world. Cheated on and humiliated publically. No one deserves that.

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    And BTW, for that reason and others, I feel no pity/sorrow/forgiveness to Jack Schaap, who through his arrogant, self centered and selfish behavior hurt many, many people not the least of which is the victim and his faithful wife.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LPGA Wannabe View Post
    And BTW, for that reason and others, I feel no pity/sorrow/forgiveness to Jack Schaap, who through his arrogant, self centered and selfish behavior hurt many, many people not the least of which is the victim and his faithful wife.
    Standing ovation for LPGA Wannabe (for this and her previous post.)

    (I know you hate standing ovations, so really I'm just imagining one in my mind, but I totally agree with both your posts!)
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    Quote Originally Posted by LPGA Wannabe View Post
    For this reason, my goes out to Cindy. No matter what she knew/saw/ignored through the years, she is going through probably the most hurtful thing that can happen to a woman and she is doing it before the world. Cheated on and humiliated publically. No one deserves that.
    Yes, and there is not anyone who has been around her who didn't know that she felt that her primary duty was to her husband and his ministry. She was and is a class lady.
    "If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my children may have peace." Thomas Paine 1776

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    I ditto what LPGA and patriotic said..............

    Thank you patriotic I erased what I posted ...............
    Last edited by Sherryh; 08-10-2012 at 04:51 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LPGA Wannabe View Post
    And BTW, for that reason and others, I feel no pity/sorrow/forgiveness to Jack Schaap, who through his arrogant, self centered and selfish behavior hurt many, many people not the least of which is the victim and his faithful wife.
    What Schaap did was reprehensible, it was downright selfish and wicked.
    He deserves to have been fired etc. etc. etc.
    I'm not downplaying his sin.
    My heart goes out to Mrs. Schaap.
    The cause of Christ has been hindered.
    We as fundamentalists are hurt...and it goes on and on.

    But honestly, what do we do with Psalm 51 and the occasion behind its writing?
    Why do we preach about David, his sin, his forgiveness, and then being used by God again?
    What he did caused his wives to be publicly humiliated.
    Not only that, he put a blot on the God of Israel's reputation.
    Not only that, but thousands of his fellow Israelites were killed b/c of his pride.

    We're all hurt, we're all affected in some way as Christians, Baptist, Fundamentalist, or other.
    But we've got to use some restraint on our feelings and accusations.
    Somehow, Grace has got to figure in on this.
    Schaap will get what's coming to him.
    God is the one Who exposed him.
    Let's learn what we can from this, make some needed changes in our own churches and lives.
    But let's not be guilty of hating the sinner, the very thing many accuse IFB's of.
    Searching for my new cult leader. Smellin' Coffee refuses to pick up the mantle left by Bro. Hyles!
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    "Hating the sinner" trivializes it. I did not say I hate Jack Schaap. I have no pity/sorrow/forgiveness for him.....yet.

    He is NOT David. David showed true repentance, humbleness and exqusite sorrow at his sin.

    Jack Schaap? Not that anyone has any evidence of.

    His very public sin requires a very public confession and apology.....which requires humility and a broken heart.

    Restoration as a christian brother requires confession, repentence, humility, a willingness to have accountability, a willingness to do whatever is asked to restore his marriage and it will take years for him to restore Cindy's trust, not to mention the respect of his children.

    Requiring accountability and responsibiltiy of someone does not mean that you hate them, it actually means that you love their soul.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 16KJV11 View Post
    What Schaap did was reprehensible, it was downright selfish and wicked.
    He deserves to have been fired etc. etc. etc.
    I'm not downplaying his sin.
    My heart goes out to Mrs. Schaap.
    The cause of Christ has been hindered.
    We as fundamentalists are hurt...and it goes on and on.

    But honestly, what do we do with Psalm 51 and the occasion behind its writing?
    Why do we preach about David, his sin, his forgiveness, and then being used by God again?
    What he did caused his wives to be publicly humiliated.
    Not only that, he put a blot on the God of Israel's reputation.
    Not only that, but thousands of his fellow Israelites were killed b/c of his pride.

    We're all hurt, we're all affected in some way as Christians, Baptist, Fundamentalist, or other.
    But we've got to use some restraint on our feelings and accusations.
    Somehow, Grace has got to figure in on this.
    Schaap will get what's coming to him.
    God is the one Who exposed him.
    Let's learn what we can from this, make some needed changes in our own churches and lives.
    But let's not be guilty of hating the sinner, the very thing many accuse IFB's of.
    I agree that God forgives, and we can all hope that Schaap comes CLEAN and gets his life right. However, you can't help but believe that Schaap has brought alot of this on himself when he constantly yelled at anyone who disagreed with his "sexual theology." He was the most arrogant man of God I have ever come across, and I have seen quite a few.

    Pride cometh before a fall. He had pride; he fell, and it is going to take complete forthrightness from him to even start thinking about getting back up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LPGA Wannabe View Post
    "Hating the sinner" trivializes it. I did not say I hate Jack Schaap. I have no pity/sorrow/forgiveness for him.....yet.

    He is NOT David. David showed true repentance, humbleness and exqusite sorrow at his sin.

    Jack Schaap? Not that anyone has any evidence of.

    His very public sin requires a very public confession and apology.....which requires humility and a broken heart.

    Restoration as a christian brother requires confession, repentence, humility, a willingness to have accountability, a willingness to do whatever is asked to restore his marriage and it will take years for him to restore Cindy's trust, not to mention the respect of his children.

    Requiring accountability and responsibiltiy of someone does not mean that you hate them, it actually means that you love their soul.
    Give it some time for an apology.
    I truly hope that one is forthcoming.
    I agree that requiring accountability and responsibility does not mean that you hate them.
    But I will say this: there was the mention of not forgiving him for what he did, and there is a constant feeding frenzy on this forum that lacks a Christian spirit.
    There is a glee that is disturbing in the fall of Schaap.
    I may not be able to control what others do, but I can still control my actions, attitudes and words.
    Searching for my new cult leader. Smellin' Coffee refuses to pick up the mantle left by Bro. Hyles!
    Duty, Honor, Country...Air Force. Proud to have served, 1985-1989.

 

 
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