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    Quote Originally Posted by fishinnut View Post
    I got so weary of hearing every visiting preacher & his sermons described as "great". I often thought if every guy & his messages are great then great is just normal or average & nothing really is anymore.

    I once participated in a preachers day long getaway retreat. The organizer decided to have a round-table discussion of "Who is your hero in the ministry?" I guess I was the party-pooper that day. When it was my turn to share I said, "I think most hero's (apart from a war zone battlefield) are zero's because the best of men are men at best."
    fish, Well stated...............

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    Quote Originally Posted by fishinnut View Post
    I got so weary of hearing every visiting preacher & his sermons described as "great". I often thought if every guy & his messages are great then great is just normal or average & nothing really is anymore.

    I once participated in a preachers day long getaway retreat. The organizer decided to have a round-table discussion of "Who is your hero in the ministry?" I guess I was the party-pooper that day. When it was my turn to share I said, "I think most hero's (apart from a war zone battlefield) are zero's because the best of men are men at best."
    You should have gotten a standing o for that

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    Quote Originally Posted by RAIDER View Post
    I was watching Youth Conference tonight. Eddie Lapina was giving announcements after Brother Schaap spoke. He said, "Brother Schaap was on his "A game" tonight!" During a recent Pastors' School Brother Schaap said of a speaker, "He hit it out of the park tonight!" I have been in services where an evangelist has spoken. After the sermon the pastor says, "Let's give Brother so-and-so a round of applause for the message." Many times when a special speaker is introduced the pastor will build him up bigger than life and ask his people to give a standing ovation to the speaker.

    I don't have a great problem with any of these, but sometimes it seems like we are viewing a sermon as a "performance" rather than a sermon. Can you imagine Paul receiving any of these accolades? What think ye, Hacker Nation?
    Nevertheless, many even of the authorities believed in him, but for fear of the Pharisees they did not confess it, so that they would not be put out of the synagogue; for they loved the glory that comes from man more than the glory that comes from God. And Jesus cried out and said, “Whoever believes in me, believes not in me but in him who sent me. And whoever sees me sees him who sent me. I have come into the world as light, so that whoever believes in me may not remain in darkness. If anyone hears my words and does not keep them, I do not judge him; for I did not come to judge the world but to save the world. The one who rejects me and does not receive my words has a judge; the word that I have spoken will judge him on the last day. For I have not spoken on my own authority, but the Father who sent me has himself given me a commandment—what to say and what to speak. And I know that his commandment is eternal life. What I say, therefore, I say as the Father has told me.”

    Jesus seems to link those that perform for the praise of man with those who do not keep the commandments of Christ and they will face judgment for it.

    Not saying that Schaap is at fault of this, per se, but such accolades have always been accepted as a part of the HAC culture as far back as I can remember, whether it be in the form of applause, public recognition or even honorary doctorates.

    Rather than giving public accolades to the speaker, why not give accolades to Christ's Word?
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    Quote Originally Posted by RAIDER View Post
    I was watching Youth Conference tonight. Eddie Lapina was giving announcements after Brother Schaap spoke. He said, "Brother Schaap was on his "A game" tonight!"
    Boy can Eddie call them or what!

    This post has so much unintended irony now. I would say he was also on his F game and it was all a game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RAIDER View Post
    I was watching Youth Conference tonight. Eddie Lapina was giving announcements after Brother Schaap spoke. He said, "Brother Schaap was on his "A game" tonight!" During a recent Pastors' School Brother Schaap said of a speaker, "He hit it out of the park tonight!" I have been in services where an evangelist has spoken. After the sermon the pastor says, "Let's give Brother so-and-so a round of applause for the message." Many times when a special speaker is introduced the pastor will build him up bigger than life and ask his people to give a standing ovation to the speaker.

    I don't have a great problem with any of these, but sometimes it seems like we are viewing a sermon as a "performance" rather than a sermon. Can you imagine Paul receiving any of these accolades? What think ye, Hacker Nation?
    Paul was receiving accolades in a way, and could have encouraged it, but rebuked those choosing up sides. He gave God the glory for growth.

    1 Corinthians 3:4-7 (ESV)
    4 For when one says, “I follow Paul,” and another, “I follow Apollos,” are you not being merely human?
    5 What then is Apollos? What is Paul? Servants through whom you believed, as the Lord assigned to each.
    6 I planted, Apollos watered, but God gave the growth.
    7 So neither he who plants nor he who waters is anything, but only God who gives the growth.

    The only accolades that matter are those received at the Bema Seat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RAIDER View Post

    I don't have a great problem with any of these,
    While you applaud at anyone who knocks one out of the park in the YMBAH thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Harvey View Post
    Boy can Eddie call them or what!

    This post has so much unintended irony now. I would say he was also on his F game and it was all a game.
    Sad, but true.
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