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    There was a recent thread about David Hyles that brought something to my mind which I have thought about in the past. My thoughts are about how that in the history of the Bible all the way to the present, Christian men seem to have a problem with women, namely lust.

    Think about it: Abraham had an handmaid, King David had an affair and fathered a child out of wedlock, Solomon had hundreds of women, etc.

    I wonder if someone like Solomon was so bad, why would God use Him to pen Scripture? Same thing with King David.

    In the New Testament, we don't find too much scandal with women, but in the 2,000 years since then, we sure do.

    In our lifetimes, we all have witnessed "great men" who have fallen for women. Even Jack Hyles was accused, David Hyles seems to have a liking for them, JFK had affairs, Slick Willy, not to mention every one of us could probably list good men who we know who have fallen.

    So, here's my question up for discussion? Were those O.T. guys sinning when they had so many wives and concubines? Are those men that much different than men today?

    Does God look at this issue the same way we do? We know that Christ Himself said that it is adultery to look on a woman to lust, so we know it is sin. (Don't worry, ladies. I'm not condoning anything)

    But what disqualifies a man from being in leadership in a church? Would Solomon be allowed behind a pulpit of a church nowadays?

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    Quote Originally Posted by IFB Tea Party View Post
    Would Solomon be allowed behind a pulpit of a church nowadays?
    Nooo...he'd be way too old.

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    This IFB perv Greg Neal was spying on his brother's girlfriend undressing who ended up marrying his wife's brother & becoming his sister in law. (how awkward the Neal's family get togethers must be). If he can get away with video voyeurism after being caught red handed.. it just proves the scriptures true that we should beware of wolves in sheep's clothing.
    Quote Originally Posted by IFB Tea Party View Post
    There was a recent thread about David Hyles that brought something to my mind which I have thought about in the past. My thoughts are about how that in the history of the Bible all the way to the present, Christian men seem to have a problem with women, namely lust.

    Think about it: Abraham had an handmaid, King David had an affair and fathered a child out of wedlock, Solomon had hundreds of women, etc.

    I wonder if someone like Solomon was so bad, why would God use Him to pen Scripture? Same thing with King David.

    In the New Testament, we don't find too much scandal with women, but in the 2,000 years since then, we sure do.

    In our lifetimes, we all have witnessed "great men" who have fallen for women. Even Jack Hyles was accused, David Hyles seems to have a liking for them, JFK had affairs, Slick Willy, not to mention every one of us could probably list good men who we know who have fallen.

    So, here's my question up for discussion? Were those O.T. guys sinning when they had so many wives and concubines? Are those men that much different than men today?

    Does God look at this issue the same way we do? We know that Christ Himself said that it is adultery to look on a woman to lust, so we know it is sin. (Don't worry, ladies. I'm not condoning anything)

    But what disqualifies a man from being in leadership in a church? Would Solomon be allowed behind a pulpit of a church nowadays?

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    The lady behind Greg's left sholder is his sister-in-law-she is a big supporter of the Neals. Even though she was on the videotape, she never changed her clothes. Clay County Sherriffs Dept concluded she was not a victim-only 2 of the 3 girls actually changed clothes in Greg's Candid Camera episoide

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    Quote Originally Posted by KingJamesPreacher View Post
    Nooo...he'd be way too old.
    Smart aleck

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    Quote Originally Posted by GuyfawkesV49 View Post


    The lady behind Greg's left sholder is his sister-in-law-she is a big supporter of the Neals. Even though she was on the videotape, she never changed her clothes. Clay County Sherriffs Dept concluded she was not a victim-only 2 of the 3 girls actually changed clothes in Greg's Candid Camera episoide
    Stay focused...I'm not talking about Greg Neal necessarily.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IFB Tea Party View Post
    Smart aleck
    Well...that's better than being a dumb aleck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IFB Tea Party View Post
    Were those O.T. guys sinning when they had so many wives and concubines?
    Where there is no law, there is no imputation of sin. It wasn't until God forbad kings from multiplying wives unto themselves that there was any sort of legal prohibition from having multiple wives (possibly some sort of prohibition upon the priests also). Even then, God seemed to indicate that he had given David several wives, so having several must have been okay. Apparently God didn't have a problem with a guy having at least half a dozen wives. Obviously Solomon stretched the bounds to ridiculous proportions, but many of those wives and concubines were marriages of political convenience and leverage.

    Are those men that much different than men today?
    No.

    Does God look at this issue the same way we do?
    Hard to say, since there isn't cohesive consensus on the matter. In other countries, having multiple wives is the norm... what passes as the normative American view is a small fraction compared to the historical world view. If Jacob wouldn't have had multiple wives and concubines, would there have been 12 tribes?

    We know that Christ Himself said that it is adultery to look on a woman to lust, so we know it is sin. (Don't worry, ladies. I'm not condoning anything)
    I'm not sure what this has to do with having multiple wives, but yeah, lusting after a woman is a sin.

    But what disqualifies a man from being in leadership in a church?
    Depends on what kind of "leadership" you mean.

    Would Solomon be allowed behind a pulpit of a church nowadays?
    No, dead people are unable to speak... he's been dead for sometime now.
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    OT: So every action is decreed by God, right? The rape of a 3-year-old...
    Mick: Yes

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tarheel Cathlo-Baptist View Post
    So, you're saying the context negates what the verse clearly and plainly teaches?
    Please.

 

 

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