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    Default An interesting counter-perspective on Halloween.

    Todd Friel/Wretched Radio commented that though he believes Trick or Treat is not forbidden to Christians, and he did so with his children, that the culture of death theme that surrounds the holiday is problematic, in that we tacitly endorse the occult and such. He posed an alternative scenario as food for thought. He said the argument advocating Halloween is usually put forth couched in the terms of the abstract (ie, death, horror, the macabre, occult, etc), but if the same ideological construct of a holiday celebrating death was more concrete it might make a difference in how we look at it. If instead of Halloween the pagan culture celebrated/sponsored a holiday in honor of abortion, would we dress up as doctors, nurses, etc, and try to innoculate ourselves from the obvious over-arching celebrated theme?
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    Halloween is a day to dress up in a costume and possibly go out and get some candy.

    Making anything more out of it is mental fapping and a total waste of time and energy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Castor Musculares View Post
    Halloween is a day to dress up in a costume and possibly go out and get some candy.

    Making anything more out of it is mental fapping and a total waste of time and energy.

    So if Abortion Day was celebrated nationally, with the giving away of candy to those who made it past the death womb chamber, then you'd say it's harmless candy and participation in it was innocuous because your intent of getting candy was pure?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ALAYMAN View Post
    So if Abortion Day was celebrated nationally, with the giving away of candy to those who made it past the death womb chamber, then you'd say it's harmless candy and participation in it was innocuous because your intent of getting candy was pure?
    It's official. You're totally off your rocker now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ALAYMAN View Post
    Todd Friel/Wretched Radio commented that though he believes Trick or Treat is not forbidden to Christians, and he did so with his children, that the culture of death theme that surrounds the holiday is problematic, in that we tacitly endorse the occult and such. He posed an alternative scenario as food for thought. He said the argument advocating Halloween is usually put forth couched in the terms of the abstract (ie, death, horror, the macabre, occult, etc), but if the same ideological construct of a holiday celebrating death was more concrete it might make a difference in how we look at it. If instead of Halloween the pagan culture celebrated/sponsored a holiday in honor of abortion, would we dress up as doctors, nurses, etc, and try to innoculate ourselves from the obvious over-arching celebrated theme?
    I see what the author is trying to say, but the meaning of holidays becomes diluted down to making kids happy. Halloween is one of them. We don't do the evil stuff, but I don't really care if kids dressed up as ballerinas come asking us for candy, or if my kids dress up like ninjas and do the same.

    Christmas (and the various decorations) was pagan. We Christianized it, and now it's been diluted down to a fun time of toys for kids, with nothing Christian about it....unless we Believers decide to make it so

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    Quote Originally Posted by Castor Musculares View Post
    It's official. You're totally off your rocker now.

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    Default An interesting counter-perspective on Halloween.

    I understand - We had no kids to show up so our candy is still on the counter!
    The one great fallacy of fundamentalism is that we actually believe that while we are confessing the sins of others that the Lord will not look as intently on our own.

    As I have gotten older, I have tended to become less dogmatic over certain issues: "(1 Cor 2:2 KJV) For I determined not to know any thing among you, save Jesus Christ, and him crucified."

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    Quote Originally Posted by ALAYMAN View Post
    Ad hominem is the sign of a weak mind and argument.
    Irony alert. I bet you hate all bigots, too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Otmer View Post
    I understand - We had no kids to show up so our candy is still on the counter!
    lol, we NEVER have kids show up, because we're so far "up the holler" that they won't make the trip due to scarcity of houses.

    I see what the author is trying to say, but the meaning of holidays becomes diluted down to making kids happy. Halloween is one of them. We don't do the evil stuff, but I don't really care if kids dressed up as ballerinas come asking us for candy, or if my kids dress up like ninjas and do the same.

    Christmas (and the various decorations) was pagan. We Christianized it, and now it's been diluted down to a fun time of toys for kids, with nothing Christian about it....unless we Believers decide to make it so
    Part of Friel's <devil's advocate> argument was that Halloween is not just taken from a pagan concept, but that it is still immersed very much in it. So I guess an analog to that would be to ask if it would be right to baptize occult practices into orthodoxy, like ouija boards or seances, so long as you were not participating with the intent to contact the dead, but was doing it just to be goofy, or to keep friendships intact.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ALAYMAN View Post



    Part of Friel's <devil's advocate> argument was that Halloween is not just taken from a pagan concept, but that it is still immersed very much in it. So I guess an analog to that would be to ask if it would be right to baptize occult practices into orthodoxy, like ouija boards or seances, so long as you were not participating with the intent to contact the dead, but was doing it just to be goofy, or to keep friendships intact.
    Maybe where he is, this is true, but not where I am. I don't see paganism (or maybe I'm so tempered to it, I don't recognize it? ) around here at Halloween...just kids and dressing up and some scawwwy pumpkins

    Having said that, if I were in a culture where demon worship was practiced, I wouldn't be playing around with that stuff and thinking that the "dolly" was an appropriate toy for my kids

 

 

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