http://www.fundamentalforums.com/ This is a discussion forum for fundamental Christians and others. It is a perfect place to debate, fellowship, and discuss issues. en Fri, 20 Nov 2009 21:19:44 GMT vBulletin 60 http://www.fundamentalforums.com/images/misc/rss.jpg http://www.fundamentalforums.com/ http://www.fundamentalforums.com/the-fighting-forum/75840-peru-is-not-the-place-for-us-food-loving-fundamentalist-but-some-in-peru-do-love-us-new-post.html Fri, 20 Nov 2009 21:02:35 GMT so any old school fundamentaists want to go to peru after reading this. definition: old school fundamentalist, would tell the church that it was... so any old school fundamentaists want to go to peru after reading this.

definition: old school fundamentalist, would tell the church that it was a shame for a man to have long hair, while thier big belly would rub on the carpet while they walked.






http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/34057001...news-americas/

MSNBC.com


Peru police: Gang killed people for fat
Cops say gang intended to sell fat on black market for use in cosmetics
The Associated Press
updated 2:26 a.m. CT, Fri., Nov . 20, 2009
LIMA, Peru - Police say a gang in the Peruvian jungle has been killing people and draining fat from the corpses to sell on the black market for use in cosmetics, although medical experts say they doubt a major market for fat exists.

Three suspects confessed to killing five people, but the gang may have been involved in dozens more, said Col. Jorge Mejia, chief of Peru's anti-kidnapping police. He said one suspect claimed the gang wasn't the only one doing such killings.

Mejia said two of the suspects were arrested carrying bottles of liquid human fat and told police it was worth $60,000 a gallon. The fat was sold to intermediaries in Peru's capital, Lima, and police suspect it was then sold to cosmetic companies in Europe, Mejia said Thursday, but he could not confirm any sales.

International black market?
Medical experts expressed doubt about an international black market for human fat, though it does have cosmetic applications. A dermatology professor at Yale University, Dr. Lisa Donofrio, speculated that a small market may exist for "human fat extracts" to keep skin supple, but she said that scientifically such treatments are "pure baloney."

At a news conference, police showed reporters two bottles of fat recovered from the suspects and a photo of the rotting head of a 27-year-old male victim. Suspect Elmer Segundo Castillejos, 29, led police to the head, recovered in a coca-growing valley last month, Mejia said.

Mejia said Castillejos recounted how the gang cut off its victims' heads, arms and legs, removed the organs, then suspended the torsos from hooks above candles that warmed the flesh as fat dripped into tubs below.

Six members of the gang remain at large, Mejia said. Among them was the band's alleged leader, Hilario Cudena, 56, who Castillejos told police has been killing people to extract human fat for more than three decades.

This year alone, at least 60 people are listed as missing in Huanuco province, where the gang allegedly operated, though the province is also home to drug-trafficking leftist rebels.

Mejia said police received a tip four months ago that human fat from the jungle was being sold in Lima. In August, he said, police infiltrated the band and later obtained some of the amber fluid, which a police lab confirmed as human fat.


On Nov. 3, police arrested Serapio Marcos Veramendi and Enedina Estela in a Lima bus station with a quart of human fat in a soda bottle. Their testimony led to the arrest of Castillejos three days later at the same bus station.

The three are charged with homicide, criminal conspiracy, illegal firearms possession and drug trafficking, according to a statement from Lima Superior Court. Police said they were searching for the alleged buyer.

‘Pishtacos’
Police dubbed the gang the "Pishtacos" after a Peruvian myth dating to pre-Columbian times of men who killed to extract human fat, quartering their victims with machetes.

Medical authorities contacted by The Associated Press said human fat is used in anti-wrinkle treatments — but is always extracted from the patient who is being treated, usually from the stomach or buttocks.

"There would be a risk of immunological reaction that could lead to life-threatening consequences" if fat from someone else were used, said Dr. Neil Sadick, a professor of dermatology at Cornell Weill Medical College in New York.

Dr. Adam Katz, a professor of plastic surgery at the University of Virginia medical school, was incredulous when told about the Peruvian ring.

"I can't see why there would be a black market for fat," he said. "It doesn't make any sense at all, because in most countries we can get fat so readily and in such amounts from people who are willing and ready to donate that I don't see why there would ever be a black market for fat, of all tissues." ]]> The Fighting Forum rabpid7 http://www.fundamentalforums.com/the-fighting-forum/75840-peru-is-not-the-place-for-us-food-loving-fundamentalist-but-some-in-peru-do-love-us.html http://www.fundamentalforums.com/the-fighting-forum/75839-punchlines-from-your-favorite-jokes-new-post.html Fri, 20 Nov 2009 20:48:20 GMT Since jokes seem to be the subject of the day, thought we might have fun with putting up the punchlines from your favorite jokes.

"To stamp out flaming ducks".

"You should have seen the monkey trying to put the cork back in". ]]> The Fighting Forum BuckeyeBaptist http://www.fundamentalforums.com/the-fighting-forum/75839-punchlines-from-your-favorite-jokes.html http://www.fundamentalforums.com/the-fighting-forum/75838-comprehension-joke-new-post.html Fri, 20 Nov 2009 19:51:16 GMT Waiter takes an order. The patron wants flied lice. The waiter says we don't serve lice.

Note that there are no lice in the story only the misunderstanding that the customer wanted lice.

Get it? ]]> The Fighting Forum subllibrm http://www.fundamentalforums.com/the-fighting-forum/75838-comprehension-joke.html http://www.fundamentalforums.com/the-fighting-forum/75837-christian-women-have-an-obligation-to-modest-dressing-new-post.html Fri, 20 Nov 2009 19:26:05 GMT Nothing fancy, maybe a little light ranch or vinaigrette. Too much of even the good ones can make you gag. Smothering your salad in Thousand Island... Nothing fancy, maybe a little light ranch or vinaigrette. Too much of even the good ones can make you gag. Smothering your salad in Thousand Island for example. ]]> The Fighting Forum subllibrm http://www.fundamentalforums.com/the-fighting-forum/75837-christian-women-have-an-obligation-to-modest-dressing.html http://www.fundamentalforums.com/the-fighting-forum/75836-im-sorry-new-post.html Fri, 20 Nov 2009 19:21:57 GMT I'm sorry for saying pale rider and thomas more would be good for each other.

It wasn't very nice of me.

. ]]> The Fighting Forum SouthernLouisianaGal http://www.fundamentalforums.com/the-fighting-forum/75836-im-sorry.html http://www.fundamentalforums.com/the-fighting-forum/75835-would-i-still-be-right-with-god-new-post.html Fri, 20 Nov 2009 18:39:39 GMT ...If I went to see John Fogerty in concert? Well? YouTube- John Fogerty - Born On The Bayou: Live At Royal Albert Hall / Stereo ...If I went to see John Fogerty in concert?

Well?

YouTube- John Fogerty - Born On The Bayou: Live At Royal Albert Hall / Stereo ]]> The Fighting Forum TR3 http://www.fundamentalforums.com/the-fighting-forum/75835-would-i-still-be-right-with-god.html http://www.fundamentalforums.com/the-fighting-forum/75834-its-not-what-is-said-its-who-said-it-that-matters-new-post.html Fri, 20 Nov 2009 18:20:47 GMT Just thought I'd sum up the FFF for the newbies so they know what they're getting into. ]]> The Fighting Forum Trab http://www.fundamentalforums.com/the-fighting-forum/75834-its-not-what-is-said-its-who-said-it-that-matters.html http://www.fundamentalforums.com/the-fighting-forum/75833-two-thousand-one-hundred-seventy-four-days-since-new-post.html Fri, 20 Nov 2009 18:15:40 GMT Michigan has beaten the Bucks, and it's about to go to 2,539.









:D






Gooooooooooooooooo oooBucks! ]]> The Fighting Forum ALAYMAN http://www.fundamentalforums.com/the-fighting-forum/75833-two-thousand-one-hundred-seventy-four-days-since.html http://www.fundamentalforums.com/hyles-anderson-college/75832-questions-to-confuse-the-hacker-new-post.html Fri, 20 Nov 2009 17:38:28 GMT Why isn't phonetic spelled the way it sounds?

Why are there interstate highways in Hawaii?

Why are there flotation devices under plane seats instead of parachutes?

Why are cigarettes sold in gas stations when smoking is prohibited there?

Why do fat chance and slim chance mean the same thing?

If you can't drink and drive, why do you need a driver's license to buy liquor, and why do bars have parking lots?

Do you need a silencer if you are going to shoot a mime?

Have you ever imagined a world with no hypothetical situations?

How does the guy who drives the snowplow get to work in the mornings?

If 7-11 is open 24 hours a day, 365 days a year, why are there locks on the doors?

If a cow laughed real hard, would milk come out her nose?

If nothing ever sticks to TEFLON, how do they make TEFLON stick to the pan?

If you tied buttered toast to the back of a cat and dropped it from a height, what would happen?

If you're in a vehicle going the speed of light, what happens when you turn on the headlights?

You know how most packages say "Open here". What is the protocol if the package says, "Open somewhere else"?

Why do they put Braille dots on the keypad of the drive-up ATM?

Why do we drive on parkways and park on driveways?

Why isn't palindrome spelled the same way backwards?

Why is it that when you transport something by car, it's called a shipment, but when you transport something by ship, it's called cargo?

You know that little indestructible black box that is used on planes, why can't they make the whole plane out of the same substance?

If you have your finger touching the rearview mirror that says -- "objects in mirror are closer than they appear", how can that be possible?

Why is it so hard to remember how to spell mnemonic?

If someone invented instant water, what would they mix it with?

Why is it called a TV "set" when you only get one?

Why does your nose run and your feet smell?

Why does an alarm clock "go off" when it begins ringing?

If pro is the opposite of con, is progress the opposite of congress?

Why does "cleave" mean both split apart and stick together?

Why is it, whether you sit up or sit down, the result is the same?

Why is it called a "building" when it is already built?

Why do they call them "apartments" when they are all stuck together?

Why is there an expiration date on SOUR cream?

If you keep trying to prove Murphy's Law, will something keep going wrong?

Why does flammable and inflammable mean the same thing?

How can someone "draw a blank"?

Shouldn't there be a shorter word for monosyllabic?

Why is the word abbreviate so long?

Why did kamikaze pilots wear helmets?

What is another word for thesaurus?

If croutons are nothing but stale bread, why are they packaged for freshness?

When they ship styrofoam, what do they pack it in?

If 75% of all accidents happen within 5 miles of home, why not move 10 miles away?

Why do we sing "Take me out to the ball game" when we are already there?

Why are they called 'stands' when they're made for sitting?

Why is there only one brand for the Monopoly board game?

Why does one get in trouble for 'WRECK'less driving?

Does a fish get cramps after eating?

Why does slow down and slow up mean the same thing? ]]> Hyles-Anderson College Smellin Coffee http://www.fundamentalforums.com/hyles-anderson-college/75832-questions-to-confuse-the-hacker.html http://www.fundamentalforums.com/the-fellowship-forum/75831-arm-span-height-new-post.html Fri, 20 Nov 2009 17:13:18 GMT bad news/good news. I'm shorter than I thought. :( and my arm span is shorter than that. this means I have to lose even more weight to be right. :p

good news is, my kids have Dan's genes. :)

and Kim grew another inch. yay!
she thought she was finished growing. I told her I grew another inch after I was in the Navy, and my uniform pants were high waters. lol! I was too cheap to buy larger.

Mike is 5' 11" and has 6' 4" arm span!

Jen is 5' 5 3/4" and has 5' 9 3/4" arm span! :D

Jenny is my 14 yo accordionist and her hand is a full inch longer than mine.

we won't talk about feet, lol. ]]> The Fellowship Forum jeri fletcher http://www.fundamentalforums.com/the-fellowship-forum/75831-arm-span-height.html http://www.fundamentalforums.com/the-fighting-forum/75830-chicken-fearing-tigers-new-post.html Fri, 20 Nov 2009 17:04:18 GMT http://www.ananova.com/News/story/sm_3568713.html http://www.ananova.com/News/story/sm_3568713.html ]]> The Fighting Forum Smellin Coffee http://www.fundamentalforums.com/the-fighting-forum/75830-chicken-fearing-tigers.html http://www.fundamentalforums.com/the-fighting-forum/75829-pastors-who-have-never-been-carried-new-post.html Fri, 20 Nov 2009 16:57:25 GMT Do any of you have childhood issues you carry? Perhaps this is why you have never been married, or always feel harried? :wacko: Your... Do any of you have childhood issues you carry?

Perhaps this is why you have never been married, or always feel harried? :wacko:

Your information is safe here; go ahead, tell us... ]]> The Fighting Forum roscoe http://www.fundamentalforums.com/the-fighting-forum/75829-pastors-who-have-never-been-carried.html http://www.fundamentalforums.com/the-fighting-forum/75828-pastor-who-have-never-been-harried-new-post.html Fri, 20 Nov 2009 16:46:25 GMT I suspect that they are few and far between. I suspect that they are few and far between. ]]> The Fighting Forum subllibrm http://www.fundamentalforums.com/the-fighting-forum/75828-pastor-who-have-never-been-harried.html http://www.fundamentalforums.com/welcome-to-fundamentalforums-com/75827-greetings-new-post.html Fri, 20 Nov 2009 16:09:28 GMT Hello to all. I have only recently found this forum and look forward to having a place to talk of the wonders of Christ with brothers and sisters in... Hello to all. I have only recently found this forum and look forward to having a place to talk of the wonders of Christ with brothers and sisters in the Lord. ]]> Welcome to FundamentalForums.com bamachile http://www.fundamentalforums.com/welcome-to-fundamentalforums-com/75827-greetings.html http://www.fundamentalforums.com/the-fighting-forum/75825-riverwalker-is-in-the-nursery-new-post.html Fri, 20 Nov 2009 15:37:34 GMT Webby put him in the nursery and he cannot post. I'm not questioning webby's all powerfulness on this forum... but if you would like to petition for Riverwalkers quick return, vote in the poll... ]]> The Fighting Forum bibleapologist http://www.fundamentalforums.com/the-fighting-forum/75825-riverwalker-is-in-the-nursery.html