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    Old 04-09-2009, 09:58 PM
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    Just to throw a thought out there,
    what if I decided to take Rick Warrens book, change the cover, state that I am the author and try to sale it as my own, if I refuse to stop, what should the church do?
    You could ask the same for BJU or PCC with their school curricullum
    I would appreciate a Scriptural response, not situational ethics.
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    Old 04-09-2009, 10:27 PM
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    Zondervan.... so i guess he is not the best illustration
    The point is not to take sides on this issue, I have no dog in that fight. Just wondering is there truly a situation that might warrant a lawsuit. Is it as black and white as we would like to think.
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    Old 04-10-2009, 12:57 AM
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    Zondervan.... so i guess he is not the best illustration
    The point is not to take sides on this issue, I have no dog in that fight. Just wondering is there truly a situation that might warrant a lawsuit. Is it as black and white as we would like to think.
    But aren't we to look to Scripture to advise us about such things?

    Does Scripture allow us to sue a brother over money?

    Is Scripture clear on this subject or does it say it depends on the situation?
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    But aren't we to look to Scripture to advise us about such things?

    Does Scripture allow us to sue a brother over money?

    Is Scripture clear on this subject or does it say it depends on the situation?
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    No you are NEVER to sue!
    1 Dare any of you, having a matter against another, go to law before the unjust, and not before the saints? 2 Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters? 3 Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life? 4 If then ye have judgments of things pertaining to this life, set them to judge who are least esteemed in the church. 5 I speak to your shame. Is it so, that there is not a wise man among you? no, not one that shall be able to judge between his brethren? 6 But brother goeth to law with brother, and that before the unbelievers. 7 Now therefore there is utterly a fault among you, because ye go to law one with another. Why do ye not rather take wrong? why do ye not rather suffer yourselves to be defrauded?
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    No you are NEVER to sue!
    1 Dare any of you, having a matter against another, go to law before the unjust, and not before the saints? 2 Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters? 3 Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life? 4 If then ye have judgments of things pertaining to this life, set them to judge who are least esteemed in the church. 5 I speak to your shame. Is it so, that there is not a wise man among you? no, not one that shall be able to judge between his brethren? 6 But brother goeth to law with brother, and that before the unbelievers. 7 Now therefore there is utterly a fault among you, because ye go to law one with another. Why do ye not rather take wrong? why do ye not rather suffer yourselves to be defrauded?
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    No you are NEVER to sue!
    1 Dare any of you, having a matter against another, go to law before the unjust, and not before the saints? 2 Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters? 3 Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life? 4 If then ye have judgments of things pertaining to this life, set them to judge who are least esteemed in the church. 5 I speak to your shame. Is it so, that there is not a wise man among you? no, not one that shall be able to judge between his brethren? 6 But brother goeth to law with brother, and that before the unbelievers. 7 Now therefore there is utterly a fault among you, because ye go to law one with another. Why do ye not rather take wrong? why do ye not rather suffer yourselves to be defrauded?

    Thank you for answering with Scripture.

    So, even if I believe I was defrauded for a lot of money by a brother, it is not okay to sue to get it back? Ever?

    Do these verses apply only to laypeople, or to pastors too? How about churches?

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    Crown Christian Publications is suppose to be a non-profit under the umbrella of Crown College..

    I don't think most church members know about those alternate sources of income..and that is worrisome...
    How do you know most church members don't?
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    My question involved suing an individual over an issue of money, not about issues of membership.
    It is NEVER right for a believer to sue another believer. Corinthians says, it is better to be defrauded.

    God will be the judge and vengence is his.

    It is hard to be defrauded but it happens. We need God's grace to be able to get through a situation where one is being defrauded but at the end of the day, we have done what the bible says.
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    How do you know most church members don't?
    cause he is not a sheeple!

    Some people think for themselves and do not depend upon a dictator/pastors words to know the truth. They do the research and find the answers they are looking for.
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