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    What about the BILLIONS of people who don't speak English? Can they have a Bible that is "Inspired"?

    If a missionary goes to a tribe in Africa, and translates the Bible into their language, would you consider that translation "inspired," "preserved," or neither?

    I went to an IFB college and had a teacher that said that the King James was THE Bible for the entire world at this time in history. Even as a 20-year old kid I knew that couldn't be right. Is that what you believe, because that seems to be the only way you could rant about the KJV being as inspired as the originals. Isn't this the teaching of Peter Ruckman?
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    What about the BILLIONS of people who don't speak English? Can they have a Bible that is "Inspired"?

    If a missionary goes to a tribe in Africa, and translates the Bible into their language, would you consider that translation "inspired," "preserved," or neither?
    Many KJV-only advocates seem to be unwilling to consider questions that apply their own claims or reasoning consistently.
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    Part of the problem with Pastor Fugate is that he relies very heavily on Gail Riplinger's material to support his King James-only positions. What a horrible waste of time this "controversy" is. It's a shame.

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    To claim there is only one inspired Bible in the entire world is to claim that God has respect of persons. But, that being said, to claim there is one inspired Bible in a specific language is reasonable because not all of these various "versions" agree. Therefore, in order to have perfect faith, we must have a perfect Word of God, and in order for that to happen, we have to have a version we can stand on. In the end, faith comes down to the crunch and we have to make a decision based on that faith. You're better to make a mistake and choose the wrong Bible than to play the whole field and pick and choose what you want from the whole list.
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    To claim there is only one inspired Bible in the entire world is to claim that God has respect of persons. But, that being said, to claim there is one inspired Bible in a specific language is reasonable because not all of these various "versions" agree. Therefore, in order to have perfect faith, we must have a perfect Word of God, and in order for that to happen, we have to have a version we can stand on. In the end, faith comes down to the crunch and we have to make a decision based on that faith. You're better to make a mistake and choose the wrong Bible than to play the whole field and pick and choose what you want from the whole list.
    Whew! Mr. Gap, you make leaps across gaps. Why is it "reasonable" to say there is one version for a language group? Who would decide that version, and which are you promoting? Were the pilgrims ignorant of the Word of God because they had the Geneva Bible?
    You say, to have a "perfect faith" we need a "perfect Word of God." Where did that terminology come from - what perfect faith? Is a man who is saved reading an NIV, or NASB without a "perfect faith?"
    I hope, also, you are not standing on a version of GOd's Word to the refusal of any other version. The versions we enjoy today are the work of honorable, scholarly men who are just as capable as King James' committee, even more so because most later versions are done by Christian organizations, not a king or earthly kingdom.
    Again, you leap by saying we need to choose one version to stand on and not play the field. That is exactly what the KJV only Bondage Leaders would have people believe. You are a child of God! You have the Holy Spirit to guide you. You have the privilege of priesthood in Christ and have liberty to find out for yourself! Open the translations and if they are reliable you will see an agreement, but all in their own styles.
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    Some of you need to go back and carefully re-read what Dr. Fugate has said.
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    Part of the problem with Pastor Fugate is that he relies very heavily on Gail Riplinger's material to support his King James-only positions. .
    That is definitely a problem.
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    What about the BILLIONS of people who don't speak English? Can they have a Bible that is "Inspired"?

    If a missionary goes to a tribe in Africa, and translates the Bible into their language, would you consider that translation "inspired," "preserved," or neither?

    I went to an IFB college and had a teacher that said that the King James was THE Bible for the entire world at this time in history. Even as a 20-year old kid I knew that couldn't be right. Is that what you believe, because that seems to be the only way you could rant about the KJV being as inspired as the originals. Isn't this the teaching of Peter Ruckman?
    Can you show me where Pastor Fugate has stated he believes the KJB is the bible for the whole world?
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