Sure it stands for Independent, but other people still have the right to feel what he is doing is wrong. Independent just means that they have no power or authority to tell him he must or must not do things.
Will those people let Grace Baptist "have it" because one of their students sings for GV?
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Sure it stands for Independent, but other people still have the right to feel what he is doing is wrong. Independent just means that they have no power or authority to tell him he must or must not do things.
True. They have no power or authority, but they'll do so, anyway.
DO tell, how is speaking about the financial issues that the ministry is having gossipping? (It is obviously not bearing any false witness) Bro. Eric has not been trying to keep the needs a secret- he has been openly talking about them, asking the church to pray, and trying to "fix" the parts of the money problems that he has control of (moving people to part-time, laying others off, etc.)
It's wrong to assert that these condition have led to the departure of Dr. Mitchell. Talk about the finances all you want. Just don't be misleading.
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We don't care. Honestly the ones who will "raise a stink" are the ones who are elected to become extinct and culturally irrelevant. Someone has to break the ice. We have known for years Independent Baptist's need to change their extremist ways or cease to exist as a movement. If someone wants to get upset or offended about what we do they need to just be thankful that our movement is governed by local autonomy and not by a hierarchy. If you want to invite GV then fine, and if you don't that's your church. I will guarantee you this; Bro Eric would NEVER criticize a ministry for NOT having GV, while many would feel obliged to let him have it for having them.
Justinian, do you go to Pastor Capaci's church? I like what you said in the above bold...
I don't care really if they do, although your comparison is apples and oranges.
My comparison was an association of IFB with GV. Take it or leave it. Would they blackball you for liking GV? Do you as a fan of GV see yourself as above the criticism directed towards GLBC for having the group?
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I don't know him, but I like some of the things I've read about him. And I appreciate some of the things you've said in this thread. Have a good weekend.
My comparison was an association of IFB with GV. Take it or leave it. Would they blackball you for liking GV? Do you as a fan of GV see yourself as above the criticism directed towards GLBC for having the group?
It was a very poor comparison. Kitson is a graduate of a college, not a representative. There are graduates of colleges all across America, but that doesn't mean what the graduate does is an association for the college. I work for a cable company - does that mean HAC supports cable companies?
Some would not like me for it, they are the weak ones. Some wouldn't care at all. I'm not at all associated with GLBC, so your last question is moot.
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You all seriously need to step back and unless you are there leave Bro. Mitchell and Bro. Capaci's business at GLBC and not here. This is just way too sensitive.
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SLG, good advice all should follow. Unless Bro. Mitchell personally tells a person WHY he is leaving, what anyone may hear from any other source should be considered gossip and rumor. This is UNBIBLICAL to hear it (gossip/rumor) or spread it.
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