God's foreknowledge/decree never involves foreordaining anyone to hell. If there is one verse that you can use to counter my point please show it to me.
God's will is perfectly defined on the point of salvation for all men. 2 Peter 3:9 tells us that He is "...not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance."
any of whom? Look at the context of whom Peter is speaking to here. There is nothing in the text that says Peter went from talking about his audience to the entire race of mankind. You didn't even quote the whole verse. You created a context of all men and then quoted the verse within YOUR context. But when we look at Peter's context, we see a different picture. "The Lord is not slow to fulfill his promise as some count slowness, but is patient toward you, not wishing that any should perish, but that all should reach repentance." To whom is Peter speaking to? The elect. (I Peter 1).
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Summon up every example you can think of regarding God's foreknowledge/ ordaining of certain events throughout history, and you have done zero to prove anything concerning God's will toward the salvation of me, my neighbor, sister or brother.
You,and anybody who is saved, is saved because God changes you heart. Nobody wants to come to Christ. I Cor 2:14
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My point is this, no matter what role a person plays in God's plan for history they can chose to come to Jesus. All who come are chosen. At the point at which they come to Jesus, the golden path from eternity past to eternity future is fulfilled in their life. All the promises of God are theirs. God's will for them is completed.
Cain could have chosen to come to Jesus, Pharaoh could have, Herod could have, even Judas could have. The role they played in this life may not have changed, but the role they will play in the next life would change.
You are partially correct here. Why didn't Cain, Pharaoh or Herod choose Christ? Because they didn't want to? And neither did you until God changed you.
Do you really think that God is in heaven failing every day. If God really wants to save everyone, why doesn't he? Is somebody overpowering God, keeping Him from doing what He wants? It is either God the prevents Him from saving everyone or man.
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II Corinthians 1:20 ESV "For all the promises of God find their Yes in him. That is why it is through him that we utter our Amen to God for his glory."
Jude 24-25 ESV "Now to him who is able to keep you from stumbling and to present you blameless before the presence of his glory with great joy, to the only God, our Savior, through Jesus Christ our Lord, be glory, majesty, dominion, and authority, before all time and now and forever. Amen."
Bingo. How could God know an autonomous decision - which, by definition, He has not caused - logically prior to the execution of the self-caused will? It's nonsense.
Simple; God sees all and knows all because He is greater than His creation, including time. God does not look down through time to see what is going to happen; God exist beyond time so that all time is in His present. He neither makes one act nor does he have to wait till something happens to be proof of His Sovereignty over His creation. God is.
Simple; God sees all and knows all because He is greater than His creation, including time. God does not look down through time to see what is going to happen; God exist beyond time so that all time is in His present.
I repeat: if God does not cause an event to occur, to assert He can know that the actual cause effects said event other than by observation begs the question. Is this not what you are asserting? Your response doesn't indicate you understand the point.
I repeat: if God does not cause an event to occur, to assert He can know that the actual cause effects said event other than by observation begs the question. Is this not what you are asserting? Your response doesn't indicate you understand the point.
How do you define eternity and time?
Eternity can be defined as the realm in which God exist outside of his creation including time, some poorly define as God living from eternity past to eternity future, but that puts God inside a time which he created. God exist outside of time because time is one of his creations and God is beyond his creation.
Time: a creation of God that is in his total control as is all creation. We, in time, came to be, because we were created to have an eternal soul, we will exist from now on and never cease to exist. Thus we will exist now eternally either in Heaven or Hell.
Since God exist outside of time and beyond all time. God knows all things because all things that happen in time never waiting for the end but he is already existing at the end. I like to put it that God is greater than forever. God neither looks down through time predicting the future and thus making it happen nor does he wait till an event happens to react to it. He knows all "at one time" .
...God neither looks down through time predicting the future and thus making it happen nor does he wait till an event happens to react to it. He knows all "at one time" .
One of the reasons that God uses the self-descriptive term I AM as the definition for who He is--the forever present tense One.
Vague. That time was created doesn't specify what time is.
According to relativity, time is a property of space. Therefore, time is as much a creation as space. Now, since space is not evenly distributed throughout the universe, time can travel at different speeds in different places, as well.
If you can think of spacetime as a wrinkled cloth (only in a 3D sphere), the straighter portions of cloth would have time going forward faster; the more wrinkled portions of cloth would have time going forward more slowly.
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Here you have two lines that originate at the same point and end at the same point. However, the wrinkled one is longer than the straight one. Time moves more slowly on the earth's surface than above the earth's atmosphere. GPS's rely on this fact and factor the time dilation into their synchronization with satellites.
However, non-Calvinists keep falsely accusing Calvinists of trying to bind God to time (often, simply by quoting verses and emphasizing phrases). The point of "before the foundation of the world" is not to say that God is bound by time (He is not, and He created spacetime); the point is to say that God made the choice, and that the choice was not dependent upon what an autonomous creature would do in time, but that the actions of the nonautonomous creature in time are a result of God's unbounded choice.
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