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    Old 07-08-2009, 12:25 PM
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    It's an annual meeting we call a Preaching Jubilee we hold around July 4 each year. I call on preachers from the floor, and they preach on whatever they choose. However, I'm going to have some guys ready next year for certain aspects of this subject and of salvation.

    Y'all come! You can stay with some of our members. It's Friday, July 2, 2010.


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    That's awesome. Thank you for sharing that with me. I'll be praying for that meeting.
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    I posted an article on my blog about a week ago, and I want some feedback. Do you think that it's Scriptural, and if not why? I'm looking for debate in search of the truth.

    http://cdhblog.com/index.php?entry=entry090630-000557
    I agree with your blog.

    The title to this thread, "Are souls converted by letting Jesus in through a sinner's prayer," is interesting and quite the status quo in many churches. The assumption is that we are "letting" him in, which I believe is unscriptural, as do you.

    Now, if salvation happens by someone repenting of their sins and asking God to save him through the use of a prayer then that is fine. It's just that typical, "come up at the end of the service and repeat this prayer after me, but make sure you fill the card in before you leave, blah blah blah." We can thank Finney for much of that.

    Another verse I enjoy is 1 John 2:19.


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    It's an annual meeting we call a Preaching Jubilee we hold around July 4 each year. I call on preachers from the floor, and they preach on whatever they choose. However, I'm going to have some guys ready next year for certain aspects of this subject and of salvation.

    Y'all come! You can stay with some of our members. It's Friday, July 2, 2010.

    I may just do that. Thanks for the invite. btw: I sent you an email about something different. Just wondering if you got it.
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    I agree with your blog.

    The title to this thread, "Are souls converted by letting Jesus in through a sinner's prayer," is interesting and quite the status quo in many churches. The assumption is that we are "letting" him in, which I believe is unscriptural, as do you.

    Now, if salvation happens by someone repenting of their sins and asking God to save him through the use of a prayer then that is fine. It's just that typical, "come up at the end of the service and repeat this prayer after me, but make sure you fill the card in before you leave, blah blah blah." We can thank Finney for much of that.

    Another verse I enjoy is 1 John 2:19.


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    Yes. I'm actually working on an article with that verse. It's really sad how Finney changed the way we evangelize. Boston has never been the same spiritually. Psychology is no replacement for regeneration.
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    The devils believe, and tremble. Is believing the only requirement?
    (Joh 3:18) "He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God."

    That's pretty straightforward. The devils don't believe on Him, they believe that He is, but that's different. If we had to do something to earn Salvation, we would be taking God's glory, and God will not have that.

    (Jon 2:9) "But I will sacrifice unto thee with the voice of thanksgiving; I will pay that that I have vowed. Salvation is of the LORD."

    (Isa 42:8) "I am the LORD: that is my name: and my glory will I not give to another, neither my praise to graven images."

    (Eph 2:8) "For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:"
    (Eph 2:9) "Not of works, lest any man should boast."
    (Eph 2:10) "For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them."

    We don't do good works, so that God will save us; we do good works because God has saved us, and we are Jesus' workmanship.

    Faith = Salvation + Works. Therefore, faith without works, is dead. (see James 2:20)
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    I did get your note, but I was in a hurry and didn't realize who the author of the note was. That's why I just sent you the quotes with no comments of my own.


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    You're exactly right. I had forgotten what that page looked like, and it is hard to read. I'm going out of town for a few days, and I'll try to remember to fix that when I return. Thanks for the comment about that. Please remember me in prayer. My dad died of leukemia on May 22, six weeks after diagnosis. My mother seems to be in the last stages of suffering from a glioblastoma brain tumor she has had about seven months. Hospice is coming out daily. She lives about five hours away in Rome, GA.


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    When you got saved, did you go to sleep one night and wake up saved or did you cry out to the Lord when conviction came?
    Neither. I read salvation promises in the Bible until I believed it. Your testimony may be different, but the only thing that matters is whether or not you believe the gospel.
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