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    Old 07-04-2009, 10:07 PM
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    What in the world kind of logic is that? Over 200 years after the KJV is published some cult leader heretic decides to use it and that automatically makes it a cult book? I think your hatred for the KJVO has migrated into hatred for the KJV. It's the Bible for cryin out loud!
    And I do not know one Catholic who uses the NIV or any MV for that matter. He just used the same logic you did.

    So it is incorrect to call them a Catholic Bible.
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    Old 07-04-2009, 10:21 PM
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    Well, I'm glad you don't. However, others do mock, deny and doubt words, phrases and verses as found in the English Authorized Version of the Holy Scriptures. In fact, it is their apparent mission on this board to cause others to deny, doubt and disbelieve words, phrases and verses as found in the English Scriptures. This after professing the following:

    "We believe the AV is the word of God also."
    "Of course the AV is the word of God."
    "Yes, the AV is inspired, but only derivatively." Which means what exactly? That the Holy Scriptures that Timothy had were "inspired", but not perfect? "Given by inspiration of God", but some words, phrases and verses lacked God's authority? They were "the Holy Scriptures", but not profitable for doctrine in every word, phrase and verse?

    "Yes, we believe the AV is a valid version...All valid versions are the word of God...Valid versions do not have doctrinal bias...The AV not only has doctrinal bias, but it has boo-boos, errors, mistakes, and additions...It cannot be fully trusted in every word, phrase and verse because its just a translation, but we do profess that it is the word of God, the Scriptures in English."

    I'll spare you the rest.



    Nothing to do with the AV translators. Nothing to do with James. It is you my friend that needs to re-read history.



    You overlooked the questions: Was God's hand in the making of the English Authorized Version of the Holy Scriptures? The question is not: Did God allow it. The question is: Was it ''from God" or not? Is the AV the word of God or not? "The King's speech is still the King's speech even when transalted" don't you know!

    No cult that I know of "sticks to the KJV" they ALL doubt words, phrases and verses as found in the English Scriptures. They ALL make a habit of correcting the KJV with "the original". Sound familiar? The implications are startling. The snide inuendo that "the AV is the cause of cults" sort of backfires doesn't it? Cults come about because they DOUBT, DENY and REJECT words, phrases and verses as found in the word of God. The AV is the word of God in English. JW's only believe the AV as "far as it agreeth with the original". The same with the Mormons. The same with the Catholics. The JW's reject 1 John 5:7 - "it's not from God", "it's an addition due to doctrinal bias", "it was added by Erasmus under pressure", etc. They reject 1 Timothy 3:16, John 3:13, etc. in the same manner. Some spirit is working amongst them. I'm not shocked when I hear things like the above from JW's and Mormons, but I am shocked when I hear it from professing "Fundamentalists".

    Ok, I'm out of time for now.

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    I don't call people who disagree with me a "heretic" . And your false accusation reveals more about your character than you intended.


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    What in the world kind of logic is that? Over 200 years after the KJV is published some cult leader heretic decides to use it and that automatically makes it a cult book? I think your hatred for the KJVO has migrated into hatred for the KJV. It's the Bible for cryin out loud!
    And your hatred for all other versions of the Bible, and those who use them, is quite obvious.

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    Old 07-05-2009, 08:15 AM
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    And your hatred for all other versions of the Bible, and those who use them, is quite obvious.

    Good day.
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    Vander; What in the world kind of logic is that? Over 200 years after the KJV is published some cult leader heretic decides to use it and that automatically makes it a cult book?

    it's the same logic YOU use to call the NIV, etc. a "Catholic" book. WWJ was showing you just how foolish that "logic" is.


    I think your hatred for the KJVO has migrated into hatred for the KJV. It's the Bible for cryin out loud!

    It's only ONE VERSION of the Bible.
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    It's the Bible for cryin out loud!
    No,it's a English TRANSLATION of the inspired GREEK and HEBREW bible.. And nothing more!
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